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Ok, from my very limited view it seems that Bicknell's success came on past recruiting efforts because when it was his own we went downhill fast. It seems to me Les Miles has ridden on Saban's recruiting, Boise still has Dan Hawkins class and Bronco Mendenhall on Gary Crowton's recruiting at BYU, etc. So, how long does it take for a coach to get their class in there and with the performance last night how much does it hurt our recruiting to use the "national TV exposure" line?
I don't think Bick could have gotten Livas.... and he's pretty much all we've got. He can get us to the 5, but then we don't have anyone else to get the final 5 yards.
Does anyone know if Dennis Morris is ready to be a stud DE and go play in the NFL? I can't imagine that he's enjoying our offense and backing up a guy who can't catch a football.
Usually, a coach has 4 years to see his 1st recruiting class make a difference known for how sucessful the future will be. Dooley has still, a long... long... two years till we see his senior class. I know it is rough and agonizing to us Tech fans to endure, but WE WILL see DD's efforts pay off. He's shown progress already, a little ahead of schedule, if that makes anybody feel a little more at ease. Patience really is a virtue. Please keep the faith fellow bulldog fans. Last nights game at Boise was really messed up because I knew we could do better. We had our chances to have a better game. GROWING PAINS, RE-BUILDING...code words, or excuses, or not executing plays sent in by the coach. What plays? We get an interception at the beginning of the game, and we showed no imagination whats so ever. Did you notice the Boise players laughing AT US!!! I wanted to slap all of those grins off of those ugly mugs. I thought, that Tech might get pissed off and play some football and ram it down their throats to shut them the f up. It did not happen. It was OUR chance to ruin THEIR year, and we pissed it away. Oh, we'll probably get a few more wins this year, but we were on NATIONAL T.V. last night, and this is how we perform? I put a lot of it on Coach Scelfo because he was hired due to what he had done with Tulane's offense. I don't see this type of sucessful playcalling transferring over to our program. He still has light years to go to get this group of kids to gel as a cohesive group. We don't have the time to do this. We should be more ready than this at this stage of the season. OK we have 9 days or so, until we go to the islands. I hope the team learned a hard lesson on the blue turf and turn things around. I'll be rootin for Tech and I hope only for a big WIN!!! GO BULLDOGS!!!
Can you please list these? I am strictly asking about the product on the football field, not about the facilities, corporate sponsorship, etc.Originally Posted by metrydawg
Say what? Lot's of examples. You don't see any differences in the quality of DD's recruits VS BICKNELL? Livas would not have come here. FOR one example. You need to give the program a fair amount of time to be where we all want it to be. It shall, because I believe. And, yes, FINALLY, some improvements to the infrastructure. JAS hadn't been cleaned in how many years? Things are looking up.
I agree. We are hurting for Senior talent on this team. The vast majority of talent is obviously in the Freshman and Sophmore classes. That is NOT GOOD for fans looking to win right now. For fans looking to win in 2 years and to have a strong future that is great.
Say what? Lot's of examples. You don't see any differences in the quality of DD's recruits VS BICKNELL? Livas would not have come here. FOR one example. You need to give the program a fair amount of time to be where we all want it to be. It shall, because I believe. And, yes, FINALLY, some improvements to the infrastructure. JAS hadn't been cleaned in how many years? Things are looking up.
I think Dooley is right on schedule.
I have seen an obvious improvement in effort and recruiting. I do not see the talent that many on here see if you expect to compete, not win, but just compete with Boise State or Kansas. It simply isn't there. And for the most part the talent that is there is INCREDIBLY inexperienced.
I think Scelfos playcalling is HEAVILY influenced by the talent we lack. Now there are times I get mad, like giving up at the end of the first half but overall I think it was a very good coaching job just to get this group to 5-7 last year.
So to answer Macp's question, and it is great to see her posting here again BTW, I think it is way too early for Dooleys recruiting to have a big impact. A Livas type of impact is rare AND even Livas is still living off of speed for the most part. He still has a ton of learning to do. It will take a full 4 years to judge Dooley as a coach. I am not ready to say he is doing good or bad. Same with Scelfo. I am high on Spangler though. I think the change is obvious with the defense. Although I think it is funny how we are angry at Scelfo for no passing game but Spangler seems to get a free pass on our tremendous lack of a pass rush which has been devastating to our team. We'll get there. We are on the way, it's just not going to be as fast as some expect it to be.
3 years minimum
I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?
Yup.
One thing to keep in mind is facilities and corporate sponsors all help in landing those good players that make the product on the field improve
Normally I would agree with those that say 3 years, but not in this situation. We have too many freshman and sophmores playing right now not to say that Dooley's recruits aren't contributing. We must keep in mind that this team is young and going to get younger as long as Dooley can recruit new players that are better than the left over Bicknells.
DD's recruits are contributing, I think the gist of several earlier posts was that they are contributing now, and will make a huge difference in the next couple of years.
Agree that this helps, but having a decent product on the field helps probably more than those items. All of this stuff is connected.
Dooley agreed to take this job with what was here. Yes he has done wonderful things for the campus, facilities, students, student-athletes, fans and the game day experience compared to what Bicknell ever did.
Remember the awesome Hawaii game last year. We nearly beat them, and they ended up playing in the Sugar Bowl. Dooley had the DAWGS ready for action that game and gave a glimpse of what the future was to hold for the fans. I do not think I have seen that level of intensity since then. Well maybe against Boise last year. I want to see that level every game, and I have not seen it this year. Was anything different before that game that we have not done this year? If we played like that in every game, do you think we would have been playing in a bowl game last year instead of Nevada? We can only wander.
3 - 4 years. Or if you can plug your biggest weaknesses from the onset, 2 - 3 years. We have not filled 3 of our biggest 3 areas of need (in my opinion) - QB, OL and DL.
Dooley's recruits look good so far in my opinion.
We always come out flat on the road but we are monsters at home.
Remember last year we didn't put Idaho and usu away until late.
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