Is Randy Shannon out of bounds?

[OmahaDawg]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...yhoo&type=lgns

I think he may be. 27 schools?

[OmahaDawg]

Well, Miami is backtracking a bit...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...v=ap&type=lgns

[hookdown]

I can understand the ACC, the three SEC schools (tampering), Florida, Florida State, and South Florida, but the rest do seem a little extreme. That said, we don't really know the inside details and there may be good reason for the large number of schools on the list. It would be interesting to find out...

[Abominable Gorilla]

Are these transfer rules instituted by the NCAA or are they rules you agree to when accepting the scholarship?

[hookdown]

Are these transfer rules instituted by the NCAA or are they rules you agree to when accepting the scholarship?

I think they are made on a per case basis by the coach. The ban on transferring to another school in the conference is pretty standard though...I think.

[DAWG DUDE]

BS..it's his life, his decision. I'd find a way to transfer to an ACC school and kick Miami's arse every year.

[rebelboi]

Why can't he go to Florida Atlantic or Florida International?

[Abominable Gorilla]

I think they are made on a per case basis by the coach. The ban on transferring to another school in the conference is pretty standard though...I think.

I guess what I mean is, what's the enforcement on this? Does the NCAA give the coach the authority to dictate where the player could or could not transfer to or do the players agree to only transfer where the coach said he could? What happens if he transfers to one of the blacklisted schools anyway?

I'm not trying to prove a point. I really don't know.

[dawg80]

Stupid.

Just shows that intercollegiate athletics are out of control. Only "rule" should be you have to be a properly enrolled student for the school for which you play a sport. Period. No "sitting out" a year after transferring. None of that stupid crap.

Again, not to start another thread about this issue, but this nation has lost sight of the mission of universities.

[JuBru]

Stupid.

Just shows that intercollegiate athletics are out of control. Only "rule" should be you have to be a properly enrolled student for the school for which you play a sport. Period. No "sitting out" a year after transferring. None of that stupid crap.

Again, not to start another thread about this issue, but this nation has lost sight of the mission of universities.

What was the reasoning for "sitting out a year" anyway?

[Dirtydawg]

What was the reasoning for "sitting out a year" anyway?

I'm no expert, but I'd bet it has to do with keeping a larger more reputable school from stealing players from smaller schools when that player explodes on the scene because there are always those that slip through the cracks. In other words, after we beat Alabama the first time, and it was obvious the tandem of Troy Edwards and Tim Rattay were out of this world, what would have kept them from coming after Tim and Troy to complement S. Alexander and be unstoppable if there weren't some sort of penalty in place? I think it's a very good rule.

[dawg80]

I'm no expert, but I'd bet it has to do with keeping a larger more reputable school from stealing players from smaller schools when that player explodes on the scene because there are always those that slip through the cracks. In other words, after we beat Alabama the first time, and it was obvious the tandem of Troy Edwards and Tim Rattay were out of this world, what would have kept them from coming after Tim and Troy to complement S. Alexander and be unstoppable if there weren't some sort of penalty in place? I think it's a very good rule.

And if Tim and Troy had decided to transfer to Bama, or anywhere else, that is their decision, and nobody else's business.

Universities have rules too, such as the number of hours of credit they allow to be transferred in. Student-athletes that wish to go "program hopping" will find they will end up staying in college a lot longer trying to earn a degree. And! this is also why universities need to have firm, strict, and challenging admission standards. Athletes would not be able to school-hop if they couldn't get in the intended university.

Oh, and if you're thinking, so what? Keep in mind that coaches will quickly identify any players that appear to be seeking to hop too much and will probably not accept them. How would they know the in-coming hoppers wouldn't just as quickly be out-going hoppers just as soon as the season was over? The "market" would regulate itself.

[Cal&Ken]

I like the sitting out rule. It actually protects schools like TECH from having our good players taken easily. I do think the coach being able to restrict where a player transfers to is insane. I hope he fights it and wins.

[hookdown]

Correct me if I am wrong, but he can transfer to any school he wants to. However, if it is one on the list, Shannon will not sign the release papers. In other words, he could go and play, but he would be unable to be on scholarship at that school. All the release papers do is allow the player to use a scholarship at the new school. At least that is my understanding of how this works.

[Cal&Ken]

Aren't schlarships year to year now? It doesn't seem fair to me that schools can screw a kid like this when the schools can drop them each year and they are left looking for a place to play when everyone is already full.