Doc, I respect you and your opinion, but what happend to last years kids who were willing to learn? We ran them off? 7 guys in 1 year is absurd!Originally Posted by DocMarvin362
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Doc, I respect you and your opinion, but what happend to last years kids who were willing to learn? We ran them off? 7 guys in 1 year is absurd!
I wouldn't mind grinding it out with you on here. Where would you like to start?
In my opinion, his offensive attack (which varies according to the opponent and development of his team) yields very good shots (open shots).
His defensive strategy is excellent--the numbers don't lie.
We're missing scoring consistency from the 1 and 3. That said, I think the 3 will continue to improve. I really don't expect consistent scoring from the 1 this year. We saw some pretty good numbers from the 5 (Cooper) UNLESS he was guarded by a physical player. Coop got a LOT of touches. I actually think if Rolle gets that many touches close to the basket--he'll produce more points.
I will go along with you
#1 You never want your PG to be a scorer, that is why he is pg
#2If your offense attack varies based on your opponent means you are the reaction rather than the action.
#3 I hope you are right with Rolle more touches should=more points(law of avg)
#4 You will never build a program when your place is a revolving door! If Rupp is the teacher everyone on here says he is why not sign younger kids and develop them and next year would be year 3 of their development. We will basicly be rebuilding next year also. Players leave big time programs and go to a smaller school for two reasons
1. Cant play with the competition at that school(big 12, SEC)
2. Problems
The exceptions leave a big time school or big time conference for another big time program. Every time a player chooses to transfer lets see who else is offering.
#5 As for the numbers don't lie, the only numbers that matter is your record, if you are giving up 58 ppg and you only score 57, you lose.
Guyton and Jackson are jucos that Rupp brought in last year. He cut some local players so these jucos could get their scholarships. Rupp's recruiting looks a lot like Jerry Loyed's. He doesn't recruit a player unless he is at least 1000 miles away. He's even recruited 2 players out of Canada and would have another one if he could qualify. This is certainly not helping to bring out the local fans. At least Richard brought in some local kids. I don't think Rupp is going to build a program at Tech. I say we cut him loose after this season and bring in somebody that can recruit high school kids from La. and the surrounding states and win with them like we did in the 80's and early 90's. We don't have a single player on the team from La. now that Cooper has been suspended.
I'll start with this:
Players removed from the roster at the end of last season:
Brandon Mims - currently averaging 3 points a game for a division III school.
Orren Tims - the 4th option on his junior college team. He is not a division one player.
Drew Washington - kicked off the NAIA school he went to less than one month into the season for the same crap he pulled here. Please stop saying we should have kept him.
Dwayne Lathan - bad kid. Noticed that his dad failed to mention that he still has a six game suspension from the NCAA that he has to serve AFTER he sits out his transfer year when he went crying to the Newsstar.
Removed for Discipline:
Jamel White
J.C. Clark
Kenneth Cooper
I know the head coach gets the final decision on who to sign or who not to offer a scholarship too but it’s interesting to me that of all the guys removed only one (white) falls under our current staff.
Mims, Tims, Washington, and Lathan were all Richard signees.
Clark and Cooper were both here because of Renie Bailey. If you remember Bailey no longer is on staff.
This is a cleaning that program needed.
Don,
You can't just recruit local kids like you did in the 80's and 90's. AAU basketball has changed that. The Jay Jackson's and Von Wafer's that went to Tech then now go to Texas Tech and Florida State. We signed Josh Brown from Ruston last year but he didn't qualify. He'll be back in 2010 after being at a junior college. Otherwise name a good local kid that we should have signed last year. Storm Warren went to LSU. The two kids at Carroll went to Ole Miss. It's hard to beat BCS head to head.
bullshit.
bullshit.
bullshit.
the coaches talked about how we took our lumps last season but that this season was going to be much better. we were going to compete for the wac title in 08-09 and go dancing in 09-10.
most of us bought into that bullshit. by that definition, it was going to be turned around overnight. we redshirted our supposed best player last season while three savior transfers also sat out. those four players were going to make is an immediate player in the conference and eventually nationally. the coaching staff truly believed that. when i watched practice before the season and expressed a few of my concerns to one of the assistant coaches, he told me point-blank that i had nothing to worry about. they honestly believed it.
boy, were they wrong. dead wrong.
rolle, while incredibly talented, struggles to stay out of foul trouble as it is. there's no way he can play center, where he's now needed because kenny cooper did something so terrible so many times that it caused him to be suspended for the season. and the way rupp talked (allowing him to stay on scholarship "so he can graduate"), he's not expected back next season. of course, we all know what happened with jamel white, who couldn't even make it to his first game with the dawgs. and olu ashoulu hasn't been nearly as good as advertised, even with a redshirt season to develop. he has a lot of offensive potential, but he's struggled to find a position (he's a 4 who wants to be a 2) and also does not compete very well on the defensive end of the floor. his minutes have been limited somewhat, but he's lucky he's playing for rupp and not keith richard, because his liability on the defensive end wouldn't have allowed him to even sniff the court.
these coaches took a major chance, selling it as they were standing on principle, by sending four players packing during the offseason (when, in reality, the coaches just didn't think they were good enough). that gamble has been a total failure. and the coaches have to be held accountable at the end of the season. we put up with six losses last year because of this year and next year. so far, this year has been a failure. don't tell me, "well, we've won more games." hell yeah, we have. look at the talent on the bench last year and how that hamstrung the 07-08 team. well, that talent didn't make that big of a difference this year.
the bold, the beautiful, theprofessor
one thing i've been wondering, speaking of local kids, where did davarius dunn end up? i thought he was going to baylor, but he's not there. did we not recruit him? did he not qualify and have to go juco? i know that's a major deal in north louisiana (i.e. josh brown).
the bold, the beautiful, theprofessor
No clue where davarius dunn went. I know his grades were an issue. Maybe Baylor placed him in a prep school?
Yes. Over-reacting.
Had all the players this staff brought in stuck I think this would be a very good team. Unfortunately, it did not work out that way. Everyone, the players, coaches and fans were confident that Tech would compete for the WAC with the team intact. The team has fallen apart because of some "bad seeds". Now we are playing with what we've got...not much. All expectations are out now that the players that those expectations were built on are out. Again, even with the turmoil, we have already won more games than last year. With the problems, I would call that progress. I am certainly not happy with the way this season is going but I am not going to jump off a bridge about it. This team will continue to improve with quality players with character, and if they stop improving before they get to the tourney consistently, then we can jump form the bridge.
http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/2...34/1006/SPORTS
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Ya are acting like a bunch of girls. It seems to me every time I get on this board to view whats going on at Tech this bunch is arguing. If YA whould shut up and help the team of your choice by donating or by volunteering your time Tech would be a better place and this board would sure be a better place to read. Thats my 2 cents worth.
Timo that article was about his brother Lace not Davarious.
Preaching to the choir about donating on this board.....
If we had kept the original 4 guys, we'd STILL STINK. The guys weren't good players.
We TRIED to land local players. We signed the Ruston kid and went after Storm.
What I wish is that D.J. Wright, Juevol Myles, and Arrez Henderson had qualified.
Rolle, Guyton, and DJackson have worked out so far with good results. The ballot is still out on how well this coaching staff can develop talent. They APPEARED to do well last year with guys that would hustle and listen but it appears that this year we haven't done as well.
We seem to be recruiting more HS guys at this point.
My thing with the 1 is that we need consistency both in assists and scoring. We haven't seen that this season--which is not too much of a surprised considering the circumstances.
Rupp doesn't really "vary" his offense, I shouldn't have used that word. He "tweaks" it according to the gameplan and it has evolved some according to the development of his players.
I'm still saying there's not a coach in the country that would've turned down Rolle (or Coop for that matter). I really don't mind Rupp's purging of the roster. I like his two jucos (Guyton, Jackson). In fact, the successful teams from the WAC dip into the juco ranks for a couple of players each year.
Nobody will convince me that the dismissal of Coop isn't hardcore! I respect him for it.
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