Benson has never said anything smart. He didn't know how to sell it.Originally Posted by champion110
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Benson has never said anything smart. He didn't know how to sell it.
What he states about the market size and "penetration" is right on the money. That is what we have been saying for years. SMU can't deliver Dallas and Tulane can't deliver New Orleans. Sometimes, schools in smaller market areas can deliver a lot more due to lack of competition for that market.
CUSA started out only going after metro schools. They don't get those markets, though, and it was a lesson that was learned by the WAC a long time ago.
UTSA is going to try to sell themselves as delivering S.A. - they can't.
Anyway, it was a smart thing to say - HOWEVER, he probably just heard it somewhere else.
Excellent post!!What he states about the market size and "penetration" is right on the money. That is what we have been saying for years. SMU can't deliver Dallas and Tulane can't deliver New Orleans. Sometimes, schools in smaller market areas can deliver a lot more due to lack of competition for that market.
CUSA started out only going after metro schools. They don't get those markets, though, and it was a lesson that was learned by the WAC a long time ago.
UTSA is going to try to sell themselves as delivering S.A. - they can't.
Anyway, it was a smart thing to say - HOWEVER, he probably just heard it somewhere else.
The SEC has identified its six expansion targets:
http://www.mrsec.com/story/report-se...ible-expansion
There are also several other articles in this series as well (listed on the site).
This is a good one on how academics and politics relate to the possible expansion scenarios.
http://www.mrsec.com/story/expoundin...fore-specifics
That's definitely not any surprise, that's exactly what I predicted. They won't be able to get Texas and Texas A&M, so they'll take FSU, Miami, Ga. Tech, and Clemson. So, the ACC will pull 4 teams out of the Big East, and the Big East pulls 5-6 out of CUSA and the MAC.
No not smart at all. If he had half a brain he'd know that TV Networks don't sell that way. They sell based on the number of TV's in the market, not the number that could possibly be interested enough to tune in. Advertisers buy based on this too. Both stations and advertisers look at past ratings, but it is well after the TV deal has been made with the conference.What he states about the market size and "penetration" is right on the money. That is what we have been saying for years. SMU can't deliver Dallas and Tulane can't deliver New Orleans. Sometimes, schools in smaller market areas can deliver a lot more due to lack of competition for that market.
CUSA started out only going after metro schools. They don't get those markets, though, and it was a lesson that was learned by the WAC a long time ago.
UTSA is going to try to sell themselves as delivering S.A. - they can't.
Anyway, it was a smart thing to say - HOWEVER, he probably just heard it somewhere else.
Benson did well on the latest TV contract, but only because he was willing to whore out his beloved Boise and the rest of the WAC for multiple weekday games.
IMO, UTSA has no chance of claiming anything in San Antonio. Being that close to Austin, everyone will be UT fans. Being a Tulane fan and alum in New Orleans would mean more in south Louisiana with LSU being a hour away than being a UTSA fan/alum. Just think, if you aren't an UT fan or alum, there are a high percentage of A&M fans/alums out there.
If you think Tulane games look lonely inside the Superdome, UTSA games in the Alamodome will look totally deserted. If they stick to just playing on the Northwest Side in San Antonio on campus, at least some of the neighborhood people might go to the games. I don't think I've ever seen any sort of UTSA merchandise in any sports stores there. I also get the feeling that San Antonio isn't much of a sports town besides the Spurs. I say that, but Baseball Express' brick-and-mortar store is there (and it's heaven) and their affiliate of the Men's Amateur Baseball League is one of the best in the nation... I just don't get that it's a big spectator sport town, but I could be wrong. Does anyone know how well the people support the Missions and the Rampage?
I always thought that given the huge hispanic population that an MLS franchise would do very well there. I think soccer would be a big hit in SA.
It is a HUGE Cowboys city and they heavily support them through merchandise sales and training camp. I see more Cowboy paraphenalia when I am in SA then I do here in Dallas. I don't see UTSA garnering a huge following though. Thats the heart of Aggie and Longhorn country right there and anything else is considered minor league.
I live 5 miles from the UTSA campus. I have been to three BB games there. One with the TECH men and 2 with the ladies. You could count the people in the stands by the low tens for each game. Their gym, and I really do mean gym not arena etc., will not hold that many people anyway. High school sports get good attendance mainly due to family and friends of the players. UTSA is definitely a commuter school with very little spirit. They don't even have there own message board. The Express News had an article last week where they were trying to form a band and color guard. The outcome of that effort could be an indicator of how their following will be. It is not just UT and aTm that are a problem but just about everyone else that belongs to the big 12. I'm surrounded by big 12 grads. I also wonder how UTSA will be able to afford the Alamo Dome if the crowds don't show up. The Alamo Dome runs a deficit every year and the city of SA is not going to let UTSA play there without paying their way. I don't think there will be any type of tail gate atmosphere there as the parking lot is simply a large asphalt slab in a section of town where that type of activity could be a problem. The river walk is connected via a tunnel under the interstate but that could get expensive for alum not to mention students. Most people in SA don't make a habit of visiting the river walk. UTSA would be better off using the high school stadium the next exit down on Loop 1604 which is housed in a very nice sports complex used by numerous north side high schools.
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What did that Cowgirl statement have to do per this subject?
Whether the city itself supports sports teams, which was the direction the thread took re: UTSA. With a Louisiana Tech degree I would expect reading comprehension to be in your skill set. Again I'm ok that you are consumed with hate if you are.What did that Cowgirl statement have to do per this subject?
What did that Cowgirl statement have to do per this subject?I mean really Bigdog13
Although the story has since been denied by SEC office, I have to agree with the author when he says this about Jimmy Hyams, who originally broke the story on his show last week.
"With that in mind, I want to make it clear that we have no problem reporting to you what Hyams reported on his own sportstalk show. Hyams has covered the SEC for three decades in both Louisiana and Tennessee. Knowing him, I would say it’s very, very unlikely that he would run with a story if he was not certain of its accuracy. In other words, he’s got a darn good source inside or close to CBS."
With that being said, if the SEC were to be turned down by Texas and Texas A&M and would then invite the four ACC schools, it would certainly do one thing - cripple ACC football in the southeast to a point where ESPN would insist on reopening negotiations with the league that ended last week. And it would shift some of the ESPN programming the ACC was able to carve out for itself back over to the SEC.
The ACC's surprising new TV deal, which was driven upward by a last-minute offer from News Corp, showed that both networks believe there is a national audience for not only ACC basketball but ACC football, as well.
By the same token, if the bulk of the ACC football power shifts to the SEC, that potential national audience shifts to the SEC, as well. It wouldn't be surprising if ESPN has already told the SEC it would be willing to pay for those four current ACC schools, whether they would stay in the ACC or not. That was not the conventional wisdom as recently as a week ago.
Florida State and Miami have had their struggles in recent years, but they still both garner a national TV audience. The SEC might already have a foothold in the Florida market, but those schools would add to the SEC per school TV payout, even in a 16-team setup. The ACC TV deal confirms that fact.
The SEC's real goal is the Texas schools. But it now has several reasons to expand to 16, even if the Longhorns and Aggies turn them down.
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