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Man, its really starting to look bad for those of us not in an AQ conference. Other than filing anti-trust lawsuits, I don't see that there's much we can do about it. Will this eliminate any differentiation between the WAC, MAC, CUSA, and the Sunbelt? I fear that we'll all become equally irrelevant as far as football is concerned. How depressing is that?
Originally Posted by DONW
Because they make more money. Tons of it. Or at least that is what they are promised.
The sky's not falling yet man! We've never been so close to our possible next step upward!
It also might be to actually separate themselves from the Baylor, ISt, TTech and KSt types much like they did from SMU/TCU/Rice/Houston etc... And they might go it alone to finally ditch A&M and OK. Who knows but their ego is flamed up and their still PO'd about not getting in the BCS game and championship few years back.
I agree! There is a very wide range as to how we finally end up. I am hopeful that it is on the upper end. We just have to wait and see. I am cautiously optimistic that this is going to turn out better for us than any of us could have imagined six months ago.
I keep thinking back to quotes from both DD and BDVD each saying something to the effect that we should be shooting higher than CUSA. I don't know if there was anything to it but it would be a nice thought.
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Texas doesn't need more money, they'd rather have championships. Here's my latest guess. Nebraska and Missouri jump to the Big 10. Texas stays in the Big 12 and so do the other 9 teams. The big 12 takes BYU and Utah to go back to 12. The MWC takes Boise, Fresno and Nevada to go to 10, but, TCU decides that since Utah and BYU have left and the MWC has added 3 teams outside the footprint of the MWC that has increased their travel, they decide to go back to CUSA. The new CUSA consist of Tulsa, TCU, SMU, Houston, Rice, UTEP, Tulane, USM, La Tech, and UAB. ECU, UCF, and Memphis go to the Big East. The PAC 10 doesn't add anybody after Texas turns them down.
There will always be differentiation in the level of play between say, CUSA and the Sunbelt. But with regard to television, yeah, it could get really ugly for a while.
TCU will NOT willingly rejoin CUSA as long as SMU is a member. And CUSA will get back up to at least 12 members to keep a championship game.
I think things west of the Mississippi change dramatically but it doesn't go nuclear. The 16 team mega conferences don't happen, at least not yet. Right now its too big a pill to swallow.
Big 10: Picks up Nebraska and Missouri plus one team from either the ACC or Big East to get to 14 teams. Since the situation in the west doesn't go nuclear (16 team conferences) Notre Dame stays independent. Big 10 divides into divisions and has a championship game.
Big 12/PAC 10: Big 12 doesn't implode. Picks up BYU and Utah from the MWC to stay at 12. Signs a cooperative agreement with PAC 10, who can't agree on who to bring in for a 12 team conference. The money is good enough to keep everyone else in the Big 12. PAC 10 requests and receives an NCAA waiver for a 10 member football conference championship.
But these two conferences are the key to everything. If the result is a new 16 team conference, all bets are off and this post is irrelevent to say the least. Again, I just don't think the 16 team mega conference will happen...at least not yet.
MWC: Picks up Boise & Utah St to replace BYU & Utah but pushes to 10 or 12 depending on if they can get a waiver for a 10 team conference championship. They pick up Houston to get to 10. To get to 12 they add Fresno & UTEP. MWC becomes an AQ conference. But Big East doesn't lose AQ status for fear of lawsuits. BCS works it out.
CUSA: Depending on what MWC does, adds at least La Tech to replace Houston. Picks up North Texas if MWC goes to 12 by picking up UTEP. Loses at least ECU in the east and picks up a team not as far east as ECU to stay at 12. Additional changes to the east side of CUSA depends on what ACC and Big East do which, in part, depends on the SEC.
SEC: Says it prefers to stay like it is but will react if the issue is forced. The Big 10 changes aren't dramatic enough for them to pull the trigger on going to 14 let alone 16. Texas A&M is something of a wild card here but I think they stay put for now, so the SEC stands pat.
WAC/Sunbelt: Cover their losses, which for the WAC is massive, but survive. Benson keeps the paycheck.
If it breaks out this way then things will be quiet for a while, but it won't be over. It will take a while longer (5 years?) for the idea of the mega conferences to become a possibility. We need to use the time to push as hard as we can to get to the point where we can be on the right side of that change.
Last edited by tenacious_dog; 06-07-2010 at 06:29 AM.
Fair assessment..... I could see it shaking out this way. I think losing Utah would be a big blow for MWC, though, and there chances of AQ. Boise helps, but a Boise, Utah, and TCU REALLY help.
With the MWC delaying their invite of Boise St till later in the month - makes me think the West goes nuclear....
Thompson is probably one of the smartest commissioners in the nation and they KNOW something is up and that Texas and other Big XII schools to the PAC10 has some serious legs to it - if not they would be inviting Boise TODAY -
He KNOWS they (MWC) could end up with CU, KU, KState, ISU, Baylor and or any combination of those schools in addition to Boise St -
Basically any of these programs could trump Boise...
Very very interesting -
''Don't be a bad dagh..."
Discussion of the Tech (Texas) problem:
http://news.collegesportsinfo.com/20...explained.html
When's the last time you heard a rich man say he didn't need any more money?
Losing the St. Louis and Kansas City markets doesn't hurt? The Big 10 wouldn't be interested if Missouri didn't bring something to the table.
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