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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    That's like saying, "The defendant is guilty of murder. I have overwhelming evidence that will prove this, but I'm not going to show it to you. You'll just have to take my word for it."

    Verdict: GUILTY

    (No I am not equating the "pay-for-performance" program to murder. Just an example)

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    Some of the latest. I'm beginning to think Goodell and Eric Holder went to the same university.

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    Interesting selected comments below.

    VILMA SUIT OUTS MIKE CERULLO AS BOUNTY WHISTLEBLOWER
    Last Updated 8:17 AM, July 2, 2012 EDT

    "After the Super Bowl win, Cerullo received “a cubic zirconia Super Bowl ring facsimile rather than a genuine Super Bowl ring, for which Cerullo has strenuously and vehemently expressed his resentment.”
    At paragraph 106, Vilma alleges that Cerullo “pledged revenge against the Saints,” and particularly against assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt.
    At paragraphs 107 and 108, Vilma alleges that the NFL “relied principally upon Cerullo’s statements” during the bounty investigation, and that the disciplinary decisions were based on the results of “multiple interviews” of Cerullo.
    At paragraph 109, Vilma claims that Cerullo “retracted his previous claims” during an April 2012 communication with Goodell.
    At paragraph 124, Vilma alleges that Cerullo created the notes regarding the persons who pledged money to the Brett Favre bounty “well after the 2009 NFC Championship Game and in an effort to gain revenge against the Saints for terminating his employment.”
    If Vilma’s allegations are true, the bounty case against him and the other players has been seriously undermined."

    VILMA COMPLAINT OUTLINES ALL ALEGED FLAWS IN BOUNTY CASE


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    Re: Saints Bounty Program



    Well hopefully they don't get accosted for poor spelling!

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    For Vilma, time is of the essence in seeking injunction
    Last Updated 3:19 PM, July 5, 2012 EDT

    Posted by Mike Florio on July 5, 2012, 1:15 PM EDT

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    OK this is finally getting a tad more interesting now that Vitt has awoke from his slumber.

    Joe Vitt files affidavit in support of Jonathan Vilma, rips investigation
    Last Updated 4:19 PM, July 17, 2012 EDT

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    OK this is finally getting a tad more interesting now that Vitt has awoke from his slumber.

    Joe Vitt files affidavit in support of Jonathan Vilma, rips investigation
    Last Updated 4:19 PM, July 17, 2012 EDT
    Let's hope it makes a difference...... So far, they haven't made any head way on this.

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    I think the NCAA should investigate and consider slapping the death penalty on the NFL.




    Some of you won't find humor in this....tough.

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    I really appreciate Benson hiring Freeh for this task. Good or bad I think this study initiated by the Saints owner should and will be published.

    Freeh report generated for Saints may never be published

    Posted by Mike Florio on July 23, 2012, 10:09 AM EDT
    Getty ImagesAs the NCAA imposes on Penn State an array of penalties that arguably are more punitive and long-lasting than the so-called death penalty, the sanctions trace directly to the report generated by former federal judge and FBI director Louis Freeh. As a result, some are now wondering whether Penn State wishes it hadn’t hired Freeh to engage in such a comprehensive review of the Jerry Sandusky situation.
    In turn, some Saints fans are wondering whether owner Tom Benson may be reconsidering the wisdom of the decision to retain Freeh to conduct a similar review of the allegation that G.M. Mickey Loomis previously had the ability to eavesdrop on opposing coaches.
    “Serious allegations have been made about our organization this off-season; we take these allegations very seriously,” team spokesman Greg Bensel told PFT via email on June 8. “As a result, we have hired the Freeh Group, founded by former director of the FBI and former federal judge Louis Freeh. Mr. Benson moved quickly to hire them and has spared no expense to get to the bottom of these allegations. We have given the Freeh Group complete access to our team and all of the individuals who have been associated with this news story.”
    It’s believed that, after examining the wiretapping allegations, the Freeh Group will examine the bounty situation.
    But Freeh’s involvement doesn’t mean a report eventually will be generated and released for public consumption. Penn State is a public entity; the Saints aren’t.
    Of course, if we never hear another peep from Freeh when it comes to the Saints, some will conclude (perhaps accurately) that he found information that would be unflattering to the organization and/or one or more of its key employees, if released to the media.
    Then again, there’s also a chance that Freeh’s report will be embraced by the Saints, since it could entail a conclusion that, for example, a disgruntled former employee embellished at best or fabricated at worst the wiretapping allegations — and possibly that ESPN’s John Barr was overly zealous in trying to dig up dirt about the team in the wake of the bounty scandal.
    As to the bounty scandal, Freeh’s report possibly could crystallize and explain the semantics-driven dispute between the NFL and the NFLPA regarding the pay-for-performance system. By all appearances, there was no specific pay-for-injury system — but there were incentives for applying clean, legal hits in a way that coincidentally caused injury. A report from Freeh that makes that point and explains the distinction could, given the widespread respect Freeh enjoys, finally spark the much-needed debate as to whether such harsh penalties should apply for giving players a little extra money to do something they’re already paid to do.
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-be-published/

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    Ya know, when we win the Super Bowl this year, there's gonna be a lot of long faces around the league. As Mark Twain famously said, the rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

    And, if I were Benson and the Saints, I'd tell Goodell to keep his ass out of New Orleans for the SB. He is definitely not welcome. Could be dangerous for him, too. Just saying.

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    Since it wasn't mentioned on here as far as I could see, Vilma got offered a deal in court of his suspension being reduced to 8 games instead of 16. To me that says a lot about what the NFL thinks about it's own evidence.

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    Re: Saints Bounty Program

    Quote Originally Posted by BoutThemDawgs View Post
    Since it wasn't mentioned on here as far as I could see, Vilma got offered a deal in court of his suspension being reduced to 8 games instead of 16. To me that says a lot about what the NFL thinks about it's own evidence.
    Was this official? I heard the rumor that was quickly debunked by the NFL last week when it was rumored.

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