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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Why is USA Today calling it a subsidy?



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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    They are defining subsidy this way:

    Subsidy: The sum of students fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money. The NCAA and others consider such funds "allocated" or everything not generated by the department's athletics functions.

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Nevermind, I guess using money from tuition fees, etc (not generated by the athletic dept)... is considered a subsidy.

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Quote Originally Posted by T_Won View Post
    They are defining subsidy this way:

    Subsidy: The sum of students fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money. The NCAA and others consider such funds "allocated" or everything not generated by the department's athletics functions.
    Yes.

    Of those 4 categories, Tech's revenues were:
    $0 - student fees
    $0 - direct state or governmental funding
    $7,209,395 - direct institutional support
    $2,029,516 - indirect facilities and administrative support

    "Subsidy" does NOT mean state funding.

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Quote Originally Posted by T_Won View Post
    Nevermind, I guess using money from tuition fees, etc (not generated by the athletic dept)... is considered a subsidy.
    Exactly anything not generated directly by the athletic department is a "subsidy" even though most of that is not in fact a state tax payer subsidy. EagerEagle lumps it all together and say's it's coming directly from the tax payers money.

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    I was trying to get the Tech and ULL numbers to make sense with all this information to see why Tech's budget is bigger and I'm stumped again.

    Here's all the information for both:

    ULL:
    Total university operating budget: 146 Million
    Direct Institutional Support: 5.8 Million (4% of operating budget)
    Indirect Institutional Support: 0
    Generated by athletic dept: 7.5 Million
    Total: 13.5 Million

    Tech:
    Total operating budget: 100 Million
    Direct Institutional Support: 7.2 Million (7% of operating budget)
    Indirect Institutional Support: 2 Million
    Generated by athletic dept: 7.9 Million
    Total: 17.1 Million


    Questions:
    1. Why is our Direct Support almost twice as much as theirs (4% to 7.2%)?
    2. Why don't they have any Indirect Support?

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    3. Why don't you just subscribe to the HOF Board?
    Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
    “It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    3. Why don't you just subscribe to the HOF Board?
    Why don't y'all get out of the HOF board and go defend Tech?

    http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=572352

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Quote Originally Posted by T_Won View Post
    Why don't y'all get out of the HOF board and go defend Tech?

    http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=572352
    Because who gives a sh*t about the Sun Belt board? Why do you?

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Quote Originally Posted by T_Won View Post
    Why don't y'all get out of the HOF board and go defend Tech?

    http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=572352
    Because we don't care what the half-dozen sun belt fans think.
    Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
    “It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Fair enough.

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Dude, U'L-LAFF sucks and is far beneath us. Why spend any effort even debating something so obvious?
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    “It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Dude, U'L-LAFF sucks and is far beneath us. Why spend any effort even debating something so obvious?
    I was just curiuos. Self-generated funds are equal. I didn't see where Tech was coming up with the extra funds. No big deal... I'll drop it.

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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Go to the legislative auditors web site and search out the agreed upon procedures reports for both schools - it's pretty clear where the difference comes from...

    Or spend what you would spend on a week of cokes or coffee or bottled water and RC & Dawg06 have it all nice and neat in tabular format -
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    Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    Go to the legislative auditors web site and search out the agreed upon procedures reports for both schools - it's pretty clear where the difference comes from...

    Or spend what you would spend on a week of cokes or coffee or bottled water and RC & Dawg06 have it all nice and neat in tabular format -
    I personally don't care. I just wish someone would explain it to Velton Knight so he would quit writing misleading letters-to- the-editor of Baton Rouge newspapers. If he's right, then I wish Tech would do more to get off the government teet (need to do that anyway though).

    * And I was thinking that since y'all were being so private about it, he must be right.

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