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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The best idea I heard was for Trump to announce that he was sending the socialist memo to the FBI/DOJ for them to redact.
    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    The other idea I like is telling the Dems that he trust them to release a document that informs the public but does not put national security in jeopardy. Just tell them, “you are smart, you don’t even need to run it through me.” Just work with FBI and DOJ, then release whatever you collectively agree on.”
    I was hoping for some version of this. Basically take himself out of it and let the DOJ/FBI be the gatekeeper. Not sure you can trust the FBI/DOJ to do their job though.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I was hoping for some version of this. Basically take himself out of it and let the DOJ/FBI be the gatekeeper. Not sure you can trust the FBI/DOJ to do their job though.
    Why now? If he did that before the Nunes memo, it wouldn’t have come out.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Even the Dems and the American "Pravda" media knows the Democrat memo was a total political set-up full of BS and lies. They're barely or not at all talking about Trump nixing it in the news or on the floor of Congress. How embarrassing for them.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I was hoping for some version of this. Basically take himself out of it and let the DOJ/FBI be the gatekeeper. Not sure you can trust the FBI/DOJ to do their job though.

    Either way Trump wins. If they release a severely redacted document they doesn’t say anything, it’s not on him. If they are stupid enough to release a bunch of top secret intel, that’s on them too.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Either way Trump wins. If they release a severely redacted document they doesn’t say anything, it’s not on him. If they are stupid enough to release a bunch of top secret intel, that’s on them too.
    Whatever comes out is a consequence of the Nunes memo. The Dems and FBI tried to stop Nunes/Trump from introducing a misleading document that omitted material facts that was intended to provide political cover for Trump. The Schiff memo was available at the time the decision was made to release the Nunes memo so there was no lack of transparency as to what facts would be needed to be introduced to rebut the inferences that the Nunes memo was fabricated to produce.

    Trump defenders were all about “transparency” when it benefitted Trump, but have gone quiet on transparency now. Big surprise. Your hypocrisy has been noted.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Whatever comes out is a consequence of the Nunes memo. The Dems and FBI tried to stop Nunes/Trump from introducing a misleading document that omitted material facts that was intended to provide political cover for Trump. The Schiff memo was available at the time the decision was made to release the Nunes memo so there was no lack of transparency as to what facts would be needed to be introduced to rebut the inferences that the Nunes memo was fabricated to produce.

    Trump defenders were all about “transparency” when it benefitted Trump, but have gone quiet on transparency now. Big surprise. Your hypocrisy has been noted.
    socialist lies/narrative

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    socialist lies/narrative
    More like “a summary of the posts on this thread.”

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    The socialist memo was not available to release. That's a lie. That memo was altered after the fact. Typical socialist BS

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The socialist memo was not available to release. That's a lie. That memo was altered after the fact. Typical socialist BS
    What do you mean by “available to release”? Are you saying that at the time the Nunes memo was cleared for release by the House IC, the FBI and Republicans of the House IC did not know the facts that were in the Schiff memo?

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    socialist lies/narrative
    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The socialist memo was not available to release. That's a lie. That memo was altered after the fact. Typical socialist BS
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    What do you mean by “available to release”? Are you saying that at the time the Nunes memo was cleared for release by the House IC, the FBI and Republicans of the House IC did not know the facts that were in the Schiff memo?
    Just keep this in mind, remember it line by line and repeat it daily Guisslapp, "Socialist Democrats are pathologic liars such as Bill and Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, IGore, LBJ, Pelosi, Maxine Watters, Louis Farrakhan, "Rev." Sharpton, "Rev." Jessie Jackson, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, now Comey and the biggest being Obama. Next in line, and just as bad of pathologic liars, is their personal lame stream media that has it's collective nose so far up their butts you could swear it's the devil himself laying a turd bomb".

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Just keep this in mind, remember it line by line and repeat it daily Guisslapp, "Socialist Democrats are pathologic liars such as Bill and Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, IGore, LBJ, Pelosi, Maxine Watters, Louis Farrakhan, "Rev." Sharpton, "Rev." Jessie Jackson, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, now Comey and the biggest being Obama. Next in line, and just as bad of pathologic liars, is their personal lame stream media that has it's collective nose so far up their butts you could swear it's the devil himself laying a turd bomb".
    You just did it again - that avoiding the argument by talking about other people in the past that did things you didn’t like.

    Why was transparency more important than the objections of FBI/DOJ when it was the Nunes memo and then all of a sudden it is the reverse for the Schiff memo?

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    socialist lies/narrative
    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The socialist memo was not available to release. That's a lie. That memo was altered after the fact. Typical socialist BS
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    You just did it again - that avoiding the argument by talking about other people in the past that did things you didn’t like.

    Why was transparency more important than the objections of FBI/DOJ when it was the Nunes memo and then all of a sudden it is the reverse for the Schiff memo?
    Answers to statements and questions above:

    1) To point out the hypocrisy of the left and the media.

    2) You already know the answer which has been pointed out to you own BB&B.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Heard more than once from multiple sources that there are no factual inaccuracies in the Nunes Doc. It didn’t need redaction because there were no sources and methods disclosed. If you want national secrets, sources and methods exposed then I guess you support releasing the Dem memo as is.

    Also, the disclosure of the improper securing of a warrant is huge. Not telling the court who was funding the fake dossier was by far more misleading than anything Nunes could have put in his memo. A little off topic, but you brought up misleading information as a concern.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Answers to statements and questions above:

    1) To point out the hypocrisy of the left and the media.

    2) You already know the answer which has been pointed out to you own BB&B.
    Yeah, I didn’t really expect you to respond with any substance.

    So instead I will just point out something that Trump and his sheeple seem to have not realized yet, presumably because neither are capable of thinking even one further step down the cause and effect chain...

    Trump has boxed himself in. If the Dems conform the memo to get FBI objection, Trump will have to release it. And not only will it get released but Schiff gets to then declare that the Dems are the only one that cared about national security and as a bonus they get to say they had a lot more info to rebut the Nunes memo but were forced to edit it out to protect national security.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    I thought the purpose of redaction was sources and methods and not substance?

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