No, but nearly every racist that voted voted for Trump.Originally Posted by PawDawg
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No, but nearly every racist that voted voted for Trump.
You have no way of knowing that, but just like every other know it all liberal, you think that because it's what YOU think, that makes it so. It's an idiotic statement. It assumes that no blacks or hispanics, the majority of whom voted for Hillary, are racists.
Quite a few times...and then it usually leads to something else. For instance, Stalin murdered MILLIONS! but we sure as heck allied with him and the Soviets to defeat Hitler. No one was screaming at FDR...Mr. President, Stalin is a bad man! we can't do this. Well, maybe some were, but FDR did what needed to be done. It's nasty business. It sucks we're put into these type of predicaments, but they happen. And we (the US) have to hold our nose and agree to work with someone less than desirable, for the greater good.
Fred Ryan also captured the moment well:
“President Trump’s response to the brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi is a betrayal of long-established American values of respect for human rights and the expectation of trust and honesty in our strategic relationships. He is placing personal relationships and commercial interests above American interests in his desire to continue to do business as usual with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.”
Your boy Obama and CNN have always ignored murders of journalist when it involves Mexico or some other 3rd world socialist nation.
And an American Christian missionary is brutally murdered on a less than third world island in the Indian Ocean outside of India. A US citizen was brutally murdered in Mexico last week. A US citizen was killed...well you know. Shall we sanction the entire world, or only those that matter to the WaPo? What happened to Khashoggi was horrible and inhumane. But you place the blame all on Trump. If it's that huge of a crime, then let the UN deal with it, but don't put all of the blame on Trump. This is a world issue not a US issue. The world buys oil from SA, not just the US.
Were they murdered at the direction of a head of state or by ordinary criminals? I can’t believe you don’t see the distinction.
IF the Saudi prince ordered, or condoned, the murder...that is not good. But, while it might give us...our diplomats, a talking point, and gives Trump an opening to win some concessions....which he took and used, it really doesn't change anything. Our relationship with Saudi Arabia has ALWAYS been about our self-serving interests. Let me say this a little slower so our lib posters can follow it....
It's about what f-a-v-o-r-s the US, not what they get out of it.
And that is:
1. the world's oil supply
2. an ally in the war with the evil Persians
The one good thing is America now has it's own abundance of oil and gas no thanks to democrats.
America is about more than money. Money is a tool. The values that our country represents is what counts.
And stopping the evil Persians, and their ISIS allies, and others like 'em are values our country represent. So, again, as distasteful as it might be....and BTW it was distasteful to ally with Saudi Arabia before this murder! or, didn't you know that?...it is in our, and the world's best interest, and it is consistent with our nation's values to seek the greater good.
Saudi Arabia is the big dog on the Arab block. Other Arab nations, like Jordan and Egypt, will follow SA's lead. Historically the Arabs and the Persians hate each other and have been at war for thousands of years. As bad an actor as SA is they are an ally in the war with the bigger threat, the Persians.
And! oil is the life blood of the world's economy. Middle Eastern oil is critical, not necessarily for us, but for our closest allies, especially European allies. I guarantee, frickin' guarantee!!! if Europe gets squeezed for oil, they, Great Britain, Germany, even France, will go to war to seize oil resources. And don't you think the USA will get involved in such a war?
As I said....leave it to the adults to manage things. Bury your head in the sand, and just pretend you are somehow "holier than thou," and meanwhile adults will keep your azz safe.
https://www.steynonline.com/9025/turki-leftovers
Filling in for Tucker Carlson on Wednesday, Mark Steyn — during an interview with Nigel Farage — said the following about Khashoggi:Mediaite's "writer", Joe DePaolo, doesn't actually say what he thinks is so objectionable about the above. In the New Media world, it's apparently enough just to reproduce what other people say and stand there with your hand on your hip going, "Well, I never! Would you believe it!" At The Huffington Post, Sara Boboltz makes a little more of an effort:
'And we should also be clear, too, Khashoggi is being presented as a hero of journalism. He's probably going to be Time magazine's Man of the Year just because he is a dead so-called journalist. But in fact he was kind of a deep state Saudi spook who just happened to fall out with the royal family. In a sense, it's different sets of bad guys we're arguing about when we're talking about Saudi Arabia.'
The comments seemed to echo others made by Mark Steyn, a Canadian political commenter who called Khashoggi a "dead so-called journalist" when Steyn filled in Wednesday for host Tucker Carlson.For a start, a columnist is not really a "journalist" - and I speak as someone who plied the former trade in the two most competitive newspaper markets in the English-speaking world. That aside, if you seriously think writing for The Saudi Gazette makes you any kind of a journalist, you're not much of one yourself. And, as it happens, I have elaborated on the subject:
"He was kind of a deep-state Saudi spook," Steyn added, without evidence or elaboration on what he meant.
Khashoggi had a long career as a journalist, covering conflicts in Afghanistan and Sudan for the Saudi Gazette and notably interviewing Osama bin Laden in the 1980s and 1990s. He contributed to the Post as an opinion writer on Middle Eastern affairs.
In Saudi Arabia people die in grisly ways every day of the week, but, as I said on Wednesday's John Oakley Show, a chap such as Jamal Khashoggi, a deep-cover spook and former confidant of the highly sinister Prince Turki, does not get whacked except on orders from the very highest in the land. By 'very highest', see the two fellows at right.Prince Turki is one of the most sinister princes in a family of sinister princes. He ran the Saudi intelligence services for over two decades, and it was to him and Pakistan's ISI that the CIA outsourced its running of the Afghan mujahideen. That worked out well - ie, Osama bin Laden, with whom Prince Turki was in very close contact. His Highness mysteriously resigned from his job after twenty-three years just ten days before 9/11. Jamal Khashoggi was one of his loyalest chums and most assiduous propagandists - which is how he got to "cover" Afghanistan and pal around with bin Laden.
I had some run-ins with Turki a few years back. In fact, I liked one of his lines so much we put it on the front cover, right above the title, of my bestseller America Alone:The arrogance of Mark Steyn knows no boundsThat's what they call on Broadway a money quote. Prince Turki also said of me:
- Prince Turki al Faisal
With his imperialist pen he would like to wipe my country off the map.I wish my imperialist pen were that good. But then I'm a writer and my imperialist pen is all I have - unlike Jamal Khashoggi, who, as Turki's protégé, operated in entirely different spheres. And, in fact, not long after the above exchange, when I was sounded out about a meeting with the prince, the pitch came via ...Mr Khashoggi. Nephew of Saudi Arabia's biggest arms dealer, cousin of the Princess of Wales' playboy boyfriend, Jamal Khashoggi was an extremely well-connected man ...until he fell out with the House of Saud. But he was not chopped to pieces in Istanbul because he was a "journalist", and not even the desperate American press can be so parochial and solipsistic as to believe that.
Mediaite et al should hire some writers who get out of the house occasionally.
Simply reading Khashoggi’s columns shows why the Crown Prince might want him dead:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d7dc6f914a9b
What would Germany do? That's what socialist would do. Is that what we should do?
Germany has capitalist markets. They, along with Finland and Denmark, have stopped arms sales to Saudi Arabia. We should too.
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