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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    The post above simply implies that you have no interest in fair play and competitive balance. In your world, whoever is willing to pay their players the most, wins. The trophy goes to the highest bidder.

    So you think it is fair and balanced now? The playing field is about as fair and balanced as Fox News. And since you brought up payroll...lets talk payroll https://www.facebook.com/enthusiadams/posts/2033130316961851

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    ell me again how it is fair that Duke gets a $20M budget and Alcorn St gets a $400k budget? How can Kentucky fly charters everywhere and LT has to bus to Dallas to get a flight to South Carolina? Thats fair?

    And again...I am not advocating that universities get into the professional business. Not once have I said that universities should pay players. Im saying...if Joe Blow walks up to a kid (student OR athlete) and wants to give him a $1000....only the athlete would get in trouble for accepting it. And that my friend is ABSURDITY.

    What you are complaining about is already happening! The trophy goes to the highest bidder. The only difference in our proposals is that you want 100% of the profits to go to the universities. And ironically, that is why the paradigm never shifts.

    Interesting note about Loyola...some of their best players are (wait for it) TRANSFERS! *gasp*

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    PBesides, in a free market society, if there's a market for it, someone will likely fill it. But they haven't yet, have they? (At least not successfully.)
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    Even the NBA is not that stupid. They have a salary cap.
    If you have a salary cap, you're not operating in a free market. Competition and demand would drive certain colleges to drop their teams. A tiny part of me wonders if that wouldn't be better (but of course, I'll continue to take advantage of the system as it exists).

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    The post above simply implies that you have no interest in fair play and competitive balance. In your world, whoever is willing to pay their players the most, wins. The trophy goes to the highest bidder.
    We're already living in that world. It's just that instead of a player selling autographs, the big boosters just pay their handler or a bagman or whomever under the table. Or they give to the program, so the coaches can get paid more and the locker rooms can get waterfalls and flat screens.

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-n-Pony View Post
    So you think it is fair and balanced now? The playing field is about as fair and balanced as Fox News.
    If it were truly that fair and balanced the SWAC would be as powerful as the ACC.

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    If it were truly that fair and balanced the SWAC would be as powerful as the ACC.



    Waterfalls and flatscreens

    Thats so very true tho. And that is the only reason why it is still illegal. So the money 1st has to be laundered...err...I mean filtered through the university then to the athletics program. And the kids get some gear and few photo ops and people like Hog can say..."they should be happy with that...thats more than I got!"

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-n-Pony View Post
    So you think it is fair and balanced now? The playing field is about as fair and balanced as Fox News. And since you brought up payroll...lets talk payroll https://www.facebook.com/enthusiadams/posts/2033130316961851

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    ell me again how it is fair that Duke gets a $20M budget and Alcorn St gets a $400k budget? How can Kentucky fly charters everywhere and LT has to bus to Dallas to get a flight to South Carolina? Thats fair?

    And again...I am not advocating that universities get into the professional business. Not once have I said that universities should pay players. Im saying...if Joe Blow walks up to a kid (student OR athlete) and wants to give him a $1000....only the athlete would get in trouble for accepting it. And that my friend is ABSURDITY.

    What you are complaining about is already happening! The trophy goes to the highest bidder. The only difference in our proposals is that you want 100% of the profits to go to the universities. And ironically, that is why the paradigm never shifts.

    Interesting note about Loyola...some of their best players are (wait for it) TRANSFERS! *gasp*
    And that paradigm is one of the strongest in American sports.

    It truly sounds like I'm debating a "socialist".

    Your budget argument is silly because Duke BUILT their enterprise over decades. Duke wins a lot, has the single best coach in the business, benefits from strong school leadership and has amazing school support from both students and alumni. Duke has academics 2nd to none. Alcorn has NONE of that.

    But Duke doesn't get to recruit more players than Alcorn, and Duke spends what is EARNS. I believe you and I both could make a strong argument that the "big" schools shouldn't always get to play OOC games at home. Maybe they should only be allowed to schedule OOC games 1:1 (home & away) but that's something that's certainly under the purview of the NCAA if they want to change it.

    You may make a lot more money than your next door neighbor. Is that fair? You may have worked a lot harder than he did to get where you are. He may be a loser. He may be a criminal who hates work. If so, is it really fair to compare your earnings to his? Is it really fair to say you don't deserve more money than him?

    It's obvious that you just don't like capitalism. You want the Duke's and Kentucky's of the world to have to share their fairly gotten gains with the rest of us. And that, is truly absurd.

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    We're already living in that world. It's just that instead of a player selling autographs, the big boosters just pay their handler or a bagman or whomever under the table. Or they give to the program, so the coaches can get paid more and the locker rooms can get waterfalls and flat screens.
    Maybe. But those schools and supporters who give to the program are spending what they earn.

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-n-Pony View Post



    Waterfalls and flatscreens

    Thats so very true tho. And that is the only reason why it is still illegal. So the money 1st has to be laundered...err...I mean filtered through the university then to the athletics program. And the kids get some gear and few photo ops and people like Hog can say..."they should be happy with that...thats more than I got!"
    Oh puleeze. Like some others on this board, I give to LA Tech's athletic programs every year. Several of them. Should we stop giving?

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Oh puleeze. Like some others on this board, I give to LA Tech's athletic programs every year. Several of them. Should we stop giving?
    Youre missing the whole entire point just for the sake of being argumentative. People could and should continue to give to the program as often as their heart desires. No one has ever suggested otherwise. But if that booster/supporter ALSO wants to give what they earn to help a kid with a meal, wardrobe, apartment, car, whatever...they should be able to.

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    People, alums, help non-athlete students all the time, with gifts, money, support, and it's not only welcomed by the schools, but encouraged! My wife and I have two scholarships we created and support, and solicit donations to, for the expressed purpose of helping non-scholarship (otherwise) students. Oh...but that's the rub. 'ships like ours are meant to LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD helping non-athlete students stay in school.

    Ya see....student-athletes already enjoy an ENORMOUS ADVANTAGE over non-student-athletes....it's called the ole FREE RIDE!

    But, that is an NCAA rule. I'm sure schools would be okay with alums buying cars and such for athletes. If only the governing body would allow it.

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-n-Pony View Post
    Youre missing the whole entire point just for the sake of being argumentative. People could and should continue to give to the program as often as their heart desires. No one has ever suggested otherwise. But if that booster/supporter ALSO wants to give what they earn to help a kid with a meal, wardrobe, apartment, car, whatever...they should be able to.
    I'm not missing anything. But you're missing everything. You're the one bitchin about the big schools having too much, while poor little ole LA Tech "has to bus to South Carolina". (Still can't believe you said that. ) And I do completely understand you're point about people being about to GIVE to athletes directly without accountability, I just don't buy it. In fact, I think it's a very stupid idea, and can think of at least a thousand reasons why such a move would be bad for college athletics. Then again, I may be arguing with a college kid here, and everybody knows that college kids know it all. Afterall, they've seen and done so much.

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post

    Ya see....student-athletes already enjoy an ENORMOUS ADVANTAGE over non-student-athletes....it's called the ole FREE RIDE!

    But, that is an NCAA rule. I'm sure schools would be okay with alums buying cars and such for athletes. If only the governing body would allow it.
    Thats all Im saying. The governing body is wrong in that regard. And its far from a free ride.

    And thats awesome about the scholarships...congrats!

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

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    I'm not missing anything. But you're missing everything. You're the one bitchin about the big schools having too much, while poor little ole LA Tech "has to bus to South Carolina". (Still can't believe you said that. ) And I do completely understand you're point about people being about to GIVE to athletes directly without accountability, I just don't buy it. In fact, I think it's a very stupid idea, and can think of at least a thousand reasons why such a move would be bad for college athletics. Then again, I may be arguing with a college kid here, and everybody knows that college kids know it all. Afterall, they've seen and done so much.
    I never bitched about the big schools having too much. In fact, Ive repeatedly said the only way to level the playing field is to remove the rules. Because as in every industry, the rules hurt the little man more than the big man.

    I never said LT has to bus to SC. I said they have to bus to Dallas to catch a flight to SC. (am I the one arguing with a college kid here?)

    I dont need a thousand reasons...just 1 or 2. That doesnt include "they should be happy with what they get already". Because where else do we apply that logic in American society? Why does Nick Saban need 8 figure contract when he should just be happy with getting what Skip gets? Thats obviously enough to make a great living on...why does he need more? Shouldnt he just be happy?

    And Im not a college kid...but I did play college sports. I remember after a big game, we went to the local pizzeria and the owner was a big fan so he gave us all free pizzas that night. And we had to go meet with compliance and faced suspension and were banned from that restaurant the rest of our careers. Yeah...thats HORRIBLE for college athletics.

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    I'm not missing anything. But you're missing everything. You're the one bitchin about the big schools having too much, while poor little ole LA Tech "has to bus to South Carolina". (Still can't believe you said that. ) And I do completely understand you're point about people being about to GIVE to athletes directly without accountability, I just don't buy it. In fact, I think it's a very stupid idea, and can think of at least a thousand reasons why such a move would be bad for college athletics. Then again, I may be arguing with a college kid here, and everybody knows that college kids know it all. Afterall, they've seen and done so much.

    Yeah, the students are a whole year or 2 older than the ones putting posts of Tide pod sniffing, condom sniffing, and gun control rants on social media. They are way smarter than we are.........

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    Re: Jy'lan Washington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-n-Pony View Post

    And Im not a college kid...but I did play college sports. I remember after a big game, we went to the local pizzeria and the owner was a big fan so he gave us all free pizzas that night. And we had to go meet with compliance and faced suspension and were banned from that restaurant the rest of our careers. Yeah...thats HORRIBLE for college athletics.
    Damn man. I sorry you had to go through that. I bet the school didn't even pay for your counseling afterwards smh

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