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    Re: Draft 2017

    My memory fails me again.
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    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/...e-clark-1.html
    Rushing & Receiving
    Louisiana Tech Southland RB 9 68 223 3.3 1 10 51 5.1 0 78 274 3.5 1
    Louisiana Tech Southland RB 9 92 443 4.8 1 7 54 7.7 0 99 497 5.0 1
    Arkansas SWC RB 11 106 475 4.5 9 10 95 9.5 0 116 570 4.9 9
    Arkansas SWC RB 11 132 575 4.4 7 9 57 6.3 0 141 632 4.5 7
    Overall 398 1716 4.3 18 36 257 7.1 0 434 1973 4.5 18
    Louisiana Tech 160 666 4.2 2 17 105 6.2 0 177 771 4.4 2
    Arkansas 238 1050 4.4 16 19 152 8.0 0 257 1202 4.7 16






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    LaTech Re: Draft 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearpaw View Post
    According to the "interweb" we have had (forgive math, spelling mistakes; please let me know of any inaccuracies)
    • 70 draft picks since 1936 (38 in rounds 1-7; source is wikipedia), 1st pick being Georgy Doherty (20th round, 200th overall, 1944)
    • 5 in the first round, and 1 overall (Bradshaw 1970); other first rounders: Roger Carr (1974, 24th overall), Willie Roaf (1993, 8), Troy Edwards (1999, 13), and Vernon Butler (2016, 31).
    • 4 in the second found: Jim Boudreaux (1966, 10th overall), Fred Dean (1975, 33), Mike Barber (1976, 48), Walter Johnson (1987, 46)
    • 2 in the third round: Ryan Moats (2005, 77th overall), D'Anthony Smith (2010, 74)
    • 10 in the fourth round: Pat Tilley (1976, 114th overall), Larry Anderson (1978, 101), Johnny Robinson (1981, 111), Trey Junkin (1983, 93), Myron Baker (1993, 100), Joey Chustz (2000, 123), Luke McCown (2004, 106), Quinton Patton (2013, 128), Justin Ellis (2014, 107), Kenneth Dixon (2016, 134)
    • 6 in the fifth round: 10Ed Jackson (1982, 123rd overall), Doug Landry (1986, 118), Artie Smith (1993, 116), Bobby Gray (2002, 140), Josh Scobee (2004, 137), Jordan Mills (2013, 163)
    • 6 in the sixth round: Dan Irby (1966, 43rd overall), Derrick Douglas (1990, 141), Doug Evans (1993, 141), Dennis Morris (2010, 174), IK Enemkpali (2014, 210), Jeff Driskel (2016, 207)
    • 5 in the seventh round: Mickey Slaughter (1963, 50), Bob Brunet (1968, 176), Jessie Clark (1983, 188; graduated from U-Arkansas), Tim Rattay (2000, 212), Jonathan Holland (2007, 254)
    Top 10 based on overall is:
    1) Bradshaw (1st overall, 1st round)
    2) Willie Roaf (8th, 1st)
    3) Jim Boudreaux (10th, 2nd)
    4) Troy Edwards (13th, 1st)
    5) Roger Carr (24th, 1st)
    6) Vernon Butler (31st, 1st)
    7) Fred Dean (33rd, 2nd)
    8) Dan Irby (43rd, 6th)
    9) Walter Johnson (46th, 2nd)
    10) Mike Barber (48th, 2nd)
    Update: (removing Jessie Clark; adding 2017 picks)
    • 72 draft picks since 1936 (41 in rounds 1-7; source is wikipedia)
    • 5 in the first round, and 1 overall (Bradshaw 1970); other first rounders: Roger Carr (1974, 24th overall), Willie Roaf (1993, 8), Troy Edwards (1999, 13), and Vernon Butler (2016, 31).
    • 4 in the second found: Jim Boudreaux (1966, 10th overall), Fred Dean (1975, 33), Mike Barber (1976, 48), Walter Johnson (1987, 46)
    • 3 in the third round: Ryan Moats (2005, 77th overall), D'Anthony Smith (2010, 74), Carlos Henderson (2017, 82)
    • 10 in the fourth round: Pat Tilley (1976, 114th overall), Larry Anderson (1978, 101), Johnny Robinson (1981, 111), Trey Junkin (1983, 93), Myron Baker (1993, 100), Joey Chustz (2000, 123), Luke McCown (2004, 106), Quinton Patton (2013, 128), Justin Ellis (2014, 107), Kenneth Dixon (2016, 134)
    • 7 in the fifth round: 10Ed Jackson (1982, 123rd overall), Doug Landry (1986, 118), Artie Smith (1993, 116), Bobby Gray (2002, 140), Josh Scobee (2004, 137), Jordan Mills (2013, 163), Trent Taylor (2017, 179)
    • 7 in the sixth round: Dan Irby (1966, 43rd overall), Derrick Douglas (1990, 141), Doug Evans (1993, 141), Dennis Morris (2010, 174), IK Enemkpali (2014, 210), Jeff Driskel (2016, 207), Xavier Woods (2017, 193)
    • 4 in the seventh round: Mickey Slaughter (1963, 50), Bob Brunet (1968, 176), Tim Rattay (2000, 212), Jonathan Holland (2007, 254)

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    Re: Draft 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Congrats to Trent.

    Hope he gets a fairer shot in SF than QP did.
    Maybe with a new GM and HC, things will be different. As long as someone can get the ball to Trent, I think he will be fine. Depending on the O-Line, the QB (whoever it might be) might have to make quick passes. Overall, I am optimistic about his chances in SF. With his personality, he could become a fan favorite.

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    Re: Draft 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    When it comes to the draft, they do. It's a matter of stories at that point. A "local" getting drafted is important regardless of the level they come from.

    It's not Isabella's fault there wasn't a Henderson reaction video.

    The coverage has been appropriate as befits the NFL draft of two "locals" in the third round. FBS vs FCS is inconsequential.
    While I agree with you 100%, when you throw in the fact that Chad Williams is the first player drafted from Grambling in 11 years, it makes the story even more amazing. I know we have folks on this board who only care about Louisiana Tech, and that's OK. That's their right. And while I care about Louisiana Tech more than any other college, I also think a good story is a good story. There are some amazing stories every year that come out of the NFL Draft. Chad Williams is a pretty cool story. He wasn't even invited to the NFL Combine, but he was picked in the third round.
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    LaTech Re: Draft 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by BearDawg137 View Post
    Update: (removing Jessie Clark; adding 2017 picks)
    • 72 draft picks since 1936 (40 in rounds 1-7; source is wikipedia)
    • 5 in the first round, and 1 overall (Bradshaw 1970); other first rounders: Roger Carr (1974, 24th overall), Willie Roaf (1993, 8), Troy Edwards (1999, 13), and Vernon Butler (2016, 31).
    • 4 in the second found: Jim Boudreaux (1966, 10th overall), Fred Dean (1975, 33), Mike Barber (1976, 48), Walter Johnson (1987, 46)
    • 3 in the third round: Ryan Moats (2005, 77th overall), D'Anthony Smith (2010, 74), Carlos Henderson (2017, 82)
    • 10 in the fourth round: Pat Tilley (1976, 114th overall), Larry Anderson (1978, 101), Johnny Robinson (1981, 111), Trey Junkin (1983, 93), Myron Baker (1993, 100), Joey Chustz (2000, 123), Luke McCown (2004, 106), Quinton Patton (2013, 128), Justin Ellis (2014, 107), Kenneth Dixon (2016, 134)
    • 7 in the fifth round: 10Ed Jackson (1982, 123rd overall), Doug Landry (1986, 118), Artie Smith (1993, 116), Bobby Gray (2002, 140), Josh Scobee (2004, 137), Jordan Mills (2013, 163), Trent Taylor (2017, 179)
    • 6 in the sixth round: Derrick Douglas (1990, 141), Doug Evans (1993, 141), Dennis Morris (2010, 174), IK Enemkpali (2014, 210), Jeff Driskel (2016, 207), Xavier Woods (2017, 193)
    • 4 in the seventh round: Mickey Slaughter (1963, 50), Bob Brunet (1968, 176), Tim Rattay (2000, 212), Jonathan Holland (2007, 254)
    After seeing a statement on CSNBBS, it seems there is some discrepancy between the NFL.com's numbers and Wikipedia's numbers. However, even counting the numbers without the three duplicate names of Paul Hynes (1961-AFL/NFL), JR Williamson (1964-AFL/NFL), and Jim Boudreaux (1966-AFL/NFL), I still count 73 names on the Wikipedia site, 72 by removing Jessie Clark. On the NFL site, I only count 59, 58 without including Clark.

    NFL.com has all of the AFL picks which sportsdawg listed, so the discrepancies (i.e. additions) of Wikipedia over the NFL are as follows:

    1. Chuck Newman 1948 (Rd17, 148 overall, WashDC Redskins)
    2. Jim Lum 1954 (Rd19, 222, Chicago Bears)
    3. Gordy Brown 1955 (Rd14, 158, Chicago Cardinals)
    4. Pat Hinton 1957 (Rd15, 172, Green Bay Packers)
    5. Tom Hinton 1958 (Rd12, 135, Chicago Cardinals)
    6. Bob Hudson 1960 (Rd17, 195, Detroit Lions-NFL)
    7. Tom Causey 1961 (Rd13, 99, Buffalo Bills-AFL)
    8. Joe Hinton 1961 (Rd13, 104, Houston Oilers-AFL)
    9. Jerry Griffin 1963 (Rd17, 134, Houston Oilers-AFL)
    10. Bob Malone 1965 (Rd9, 71, Boston Patriots-AFL)
    11. David Lee 1965 (Rd18, 137, Boston Patriots-AFL)
    12. Dan Irby 1966 (Rd6, 43, Boston Patriots-AFL)
    13. Billy Laird 1966, Rd15, 129, Boston Patriots-AFL)

    Thus, I've corrected the sixth round numbers above to remove Dan Irby. With his removal and Jessie Clark's removal, we have 58 NFL/AFL picks as recognized by NFL.com, and 40 picks in rounds between rounds 1-7. Wikipedia's numbers as listed in Beardawg's previous post are accurate number wise from the info on that site.

    I'm not sure where the 64 number (63 when removing Clark) that UNT found if he counted from the NFL site he linked, but it would be interesting to do the analysis for the number of picks in CUSA from only the 1-7 rounds.

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    LaTech Re: Draft 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearpaw View Post

    NFL.com has all of the AFL picks which sportsdawg listed, so the discrepancies (i.e. additions) of Wikipedia over the NFL are as follows:

    1. Chuck Newman 1948 (Rd17, 148 overall, WashDC Redskins)
    2. Jim Lum 1954 (Rd19, 222, Chicago Bears)
    3. Gordy Brown 1955 (Rd14, 158, Chicago Cardinals)
    4. Pat Hinton 1957 (Rd15, 172, Green Bay Packers)
    5. Tom Hinton 1958 (Rd12, 135, Chicago Cardinals)
    6. Bob Hudson 1960 (Rd17, 195, Detroit Lions-NFL)
    7. Tom Causey 1961 (Rd13, 99, Buffalo Bills-AFL)
    8. Joe Hinton 1961 (Rd13, 104, Houston Oilers-AFL)
    9. Jerry Griffin 1963 (Rd17, 134, Houston Oilers-AFL)
    10. Bob Malone 1965 (Rd9, 71, Boston Patriots-AFL)
    11. David Lee 1965 (Rd18, 137, Boston Patriots-AFL)
    12. Dan Irby 1966 (Rd6, 43, Boston Patriots-AFL)
    13. Billy Laird 1966, Rd15, 129, Boston Patriots-AFL)
    Anyone have an idea why these 13 alumni would not be included on NFL.com? Wikipedia has at least one (Bob Hudson @#6) on an NFL team.

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    LaTech Re: Draft 2017

    Found this on TechAlum05's Twitter:

    Ranking of NFL Draft picks over 10 years (we tie for top Non-Money 5 @ #40 with 10; only 1 less than TCU)

    http://collegefootballnews.com/2017/...kings-no-1-130

    T13 Arkansas 21
    T13 Georgia 21
    T13 USC 21
    16 Texas A&M 18
    T17 Auburn 17
    T17 Louisville 17
    T17 Utah 17
    T20 Missouri 16
    T20 North Carolina 16
    T20 Oregon 16
    T20 South Carolina 16
    T20 West Virginia 16

    T25 Baylor 15
    T25 Michigan State 15
    T25 Penn State 15
    T25 Wisconsin 15
    29 Washington 14
    T30 California 13
    T30 Mississippi State 13
    T30 Nebraska 13
    T30 Tennessee 13
    T30 Virginia Tech 13

    35 Iowa 12
    36 Oregon State 12
    T37 Boston College 11
    T37 Ole Miss 11
    T37 TCU 11
    T40 Arizona State 10
    T40 Boise State 10
    T40 Connecticut 10
    T40 Louisiana Tech 10
    T40 NC State 10
    T40 Pitt 10
    T40 Rutgers 10

    T40 Texas 10
    T48 Georgia Tech 9
    T48 Kansas State 9
    T48 Minnesota 9
    T48 San Diego State 9

    T52 Illinois 8
    T52 Vanderbilt 8
    T52 Western Kentucky 8
    T55 Colorado 7
    T55 Indiana 7
    T55 Maryland 7
    T55 UCF 7
    T55 USF 7
    T55 Utah State 7
    T55 Virginia 7

    T62 Colorado State 6
    T62 Fresno State 6
    T62 Houston 6
    T62 Northwestern 6
    T62 Oklahoma State 6
    T62 Purdue 6
    T62 San Jose State 6
    T62 Syracuse 6
    T62 Temple 6
    T62 Texas Tech 6
    T62 Washington State 6

    T73 Arizona 5
    T73 Georgia Southern 5
    T73 Kentucky 5
    T73 Memphis 5
    T73 Southern Miss 5
    T73 Western Michigan 5
    T73 Wyoming 5

    T80 Buffalo 4
    T80 BYU 4
    T80 Cincinnati 4
    T80 Duke 4
    T80 FIU 4
    T80 Florida Atlantic 4

    T80 Kansas 4
    T80 Northern Illinois 4
    T80 Ohio 4
    T80 Rice 4
    T80 Tulane 4
    T80 Wake Forest 4

    T92 Appalachian State 3
    T92 Central Michigan 3
    T92 Coastal Carolina 3
    T92 Iowa State 3
    T92 Marshall 3
    T92 Massachusetts 3
    T92 Miami Univ. 3
    T92 Nevada 3
    T92 SMU 3
    T92 Toledo 3

    T102 Arkansas State 2
    T102 Ball State 2
    T102 East Carolina 2
    T102 Eastern Michigan 2
    T102 Georgia State 2
    T102 Kent State 2
    T102 Louisiana 2
    T102 Middle Tennessee 2
    T102 Navy 2
    T102 Texas State 2
    T102 UAB 2

    T113 Akron 1
    T113 Bowling Green 1
    T113 Hawaii 1
    T113 New Mexico State 1
    T113 South Alabama 1
    T113 Troy 1
    T113 ULM 1
    T113 UTEP 1
    T113 UTSA 1

    T122 Air Force 0
    T122 Army 0
    T122 Charlotte 0
    T122 Idaho 0
    T122 New Mexico 0
    T122 North Texas 0
    T122 Old Dominion 0

    T122 Tulsa 0
    T122 UNLV 0

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    Re: Draft 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearpaw View Post
    Anyone have an idea why these 13 alumni would not be included on NFL.com? Wikipedia has at least one (Bob Hudson @#6) on an NFL team.
    Does the NFL site include those drafted by AFL teams prior to the merger? If not, that would explain some.
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    Re: Draft 2017

    • The Broncos added two receivers in the draft this year, and both Courtland Sutton and DaeSean Hamilton are locks to make the roster. This could leave a player the team was once high on out of a job. Carlos Henderson did not see the field as a rookie, spending all year on IR with a thumb injury. The 2017 third-round pick is now dealing with a hamstring malady, Nicki Jhabvala of The Athletic notes (subscription required). “(The injury) started in Phase 2 and hasn’t gotten better,” Vance Joseph said, via Jhabvala. “He’s got to get back on the field if he wants to make this football team.” Denver also has Jordan Taylor and Isaiah McKenzie vying for roster spots, with one of those two likely sticking around as the primary return man. Henderson produced eye-popping numbers at Louisiana Tech, and it would be a tad early for a team to give up on a third-rounder, but the slot target could be in danger of being cut by his first NFL team without having played in a regular-season game.

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