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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Are you concerned that he was the only member of the FBI capable of "leading" an investigation? He didn't fire the FBI, just the "independent" traitor.
    No, but the head honcho of the FBI determines how hard to push an investigation. Reportedly, Comey had requested a few days ago additional money and agents to investigate people in the Trump campaign as it pertains to their Russian activities. I suspect that whoever Trump nominates to replace Comey will be somebody who Trumps believes will be loyal to him and will do his biding. Bottom line: Trump fired Comey because he didn't like the way Comey was taking the investigation. Even IF that is not the case, and I don't believe it is, the appearance that that was the motivation is very real.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    To compare something a U.S. politician does in these times to the unspeakable actions of Hitler is just plain asinine and insensitive. I am embarrassed a Tech graduate would do that.
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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    To compare something a U.S. politician does in these times to the unspeakable actions of Hitler is just plain asinine and insensitive. I am embarrassed a Tech graduate would do that.
    If you don't learn from history it will repeat itself. My point is that this is how despots gain absolute power in civilizations that are antithetical to the actions that the despot ultimately take.

    This is precisely why we have things such as the holocaust museum - to remind us that these horrible things can and do happen if we stand by and allow them to.

    Your embarrassment would be more useful if it were directed at those that don't protest these patterns of behavior. Lying, attempts to silence critics, challenging of power-checking institutions.

    If you haven't visited the holocaust museum, you really should. You can't walk through without wondering the same thoughts as I have already stated in this thread.

    From the museum:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/RaRaVibes...516800/photo/1

    Another popular poem which is prominently featured near the exit of the exhibit.

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Still a ridiculous overreach by you.
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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    Still a ridiculous overreach by you.
    You may have missed the attacks on the media, exclusion of selected press, promotion of the press that agrees with the administration, the consideration of loosening libel laws for public figures to sue the media, the outright lying by the president and his official spokespersons, the attack on judges, the firing of top ranking justice officials that disagree with him or his alternate views of the facts or constitution, his insistence on loyalty to him above all else that have hallmarked nearly every day of his first 100 days - but I haven't.

    It is a troubling trend and coupled with his campaign rhetoric that tickles the chords of fascism, I have major concerns... which only grow as his supporters seem to be so locked into his propaganda channels and so willing to oblige each step he takes towards despotism.

    At some point you can't stop the momentum of it all, but I think so many otherwise principled republicans are so happy to think they might get their sacred cows - tax reform, border wall, repeal of Obamacare, Supreme Court picks - that they are a little too willing to overlook the troubling pattern that had emerged.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Guisslap is nothing but a cut and paste liberal. He is a dawdle and a bore, and one wastes time responding to him. Just read the Democrat talking points and be done with it.

    With that said, the timing of the firing does raise eyebrows in that it was so close to Yate's testimony to the effect that the basis for the Russian collusion rumors was an FBI investigation into the matter. It doesn't matter that the Democrats undeniably flip-flopped. If he was hindering an investigation by firing Comey, that could be an impeachable offense.

    My opinion is that Comey should have been fired a long time ago. Obama should have fired him. The way he handled himself during the election was nothing short of incompetence. He also recently misrepresented at best and lied at worst to Congress.

    But, what I think isn't important. The fact is, the firing was ill timed and begs for an investigation as to his motives for firing him. Trump has no ligitimate complaints that there is such an uproar for an investigation into the firing.

    All this has done is to confirm once again that incompetence reigns in DC.
    Perfectly stated.

    This is likely a knee-jerk firing by Trump being frustrated with the drumbeat of leaks and yet-to-be proved claims of collusion.

    But his timing makes it look enough like a cover-up to give dems ammunition for months.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by LATechBanjo View Post

    But his timing makes it look enough like a cover-up to give dems ammunition for months.
    He should have waited longer or done it sooner?

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    He should have waited longer or done it sooner?
    Rand Paul supports it and John McCain doesn't. Hence, President Trump made the right move.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    Rand Paul supports it and John McCain doesn't. Hence, President Trump made the right move.
    Yeah, I've been sick of McCain since he over played the POW card years ago. He's no hero.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Yeah, I've been sick of McCain since he over played the POW card years ago. He's no hero.
    Because Vietnam vets that were captured for 6 years and tortured are not heros?

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    This is why I am an independent. You republicans have really lost your way.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Because Vietnam vets that were captured for 6 years and tortured are not heros?


    You like him just because he was a POW? Ever see a WWII vet use their record to get in office? Nope.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    You like him just because he was a POW? Ever see a WWII vet use their record to get in office? Nope.
    I liked him better than Obama. And I think he is a better than average Senator.

    As far as WWII vets that promoted their service - JFK and George Andrews are the first to come to mind. There are none remaining in Congress.

    McCain's service makes him a hero, whether he promoted it or not. You are embarrassing yourself.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    You like him just because he was a POW? Ever see a WWII vet use their record to get in office? Nope.
    What about Bob Dole?

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Comey deserved to be fired the instant he stated that he did not recommend prosecution of Hillary after spending 15 minutes laying out the entire case that would have gotten a true bill from any grand jury except one stacked with hand-picked DIMMS in it.

    The FBI Director is supposed to head the investigation side and should not be playing any part in prosecutorial decisions. Except the hot dog Comey was acting like he was at least an assistant AG if not the actual AG during that press conference.

    I would have no problem with a special counsel being named to investigate the false Russia election collusion claims. As long as special counsels also get named at the same time to look into these Obama era oldies but goodies, and I'm probably missing a few:
    1) Lois Lerner, John Koskinen, and the entire IRS scandal regarding tax-exempt status denials on political grounds.
    2) Obama's Operation Fast and Furious gun-running scandal
    3) Hillary's uranium deal with Russia. That's where the real Russian collusion is.
    4) The illegal rewrites (at least 70 changes known as of a year ago) of Obamacare after the law was passed by Congress.
    5) The Iran nuclear deal.
    6) The Obama administration illegal spying of journalists.
    7) Benghazi.
    8) The Iran ransom for hostages scandal.
    9) The Clinton Foundation scandal.
    10) Obama's tampering with the recent Israeli election by spending U.S. taxpayer money to try to defeat Netanyahu.
    11) The Hillary e-mail/mishandling of classified documents scandal.
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