Immigration

So, what is a good enough reason to solve illegal immigration?

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Originally Posted by techman05

So, what is a good enough reason to solve illegal immigration?

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Socialists like open borders. It's what the democrats are running on now.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

The point is that illegal immigration and homicide are two different problems requiring two different solutions. A cop being murdered by an illegal immigrant is not a reason to solve illegal immigration.

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How's this: We should do everything we can to stop illegal immigration because IT IS ILLEGAL! There's nothing complicated about it and you know it. You, however, prefer to pretend to believe that liberal Democrats want open borders because of their compassion for the down trodden when you and everybody else knows that they want open borders so as to flood California, Florida, and Texas with enough welfare dependent voters to turn them blue.

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Originally Posted by brtransplant

How's this: We should do everything we can to stop illegal immigration because IT IS ILLEGAL! There's nothing complicated about it and you know it. You, however, prefer to pretend to believe that liberal Democrats want open borders because of their compassion for the down trodden when you and everybody else knows that they want open borders so as to flood California, Florida, and Texas with enough welfare dependent voters to turn them blue.

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If that is the reason to solve it, then the easiest solution would be just to make it legal. Lol

And, blue-collar White folks, Trump’s base, is by far the biggest beneficiary of welfare.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/povert...ge-degrees-the

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Originally Posted by techman05

So, what is a good enough reason to solve illegal immigration?

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You guys haven’t really ever explained why illegal immigration is such a big problem. I will concede it is a problem, but I don’t get the hysteria.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

You guys haven’t really ever explained why illegal immigration is such a big problem. I will concede it is a problem, but I don’t get the hysteria.

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Nice deflection. At what point is something that is illegal worth stopping? You consider driving 3mph over the speed limit and illegal border crossing to be about the same? Illegal, but not worth the effort to stop it?

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Originally Posted by techman05

Nice deflection. At what point is something that is illegal worth stopping? You consider driving 3mph over the speed limit and illegal border crossing to be about the same? Illegal, but not worth the effort to stop it?

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What would be the harm in just not making it illegal?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

What would be the harm in just not making it illegal?

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Okay, your drunk or high. No borders, no vetting, just cross where and how and when you like? No way of knowing who is paying taxes or who is receiving benefits that should only be permitted to legal residents or citizens? On that note, I’m done.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

And I don't care about Guisslapp's connection thoughts between cop/policemen killing illegals and American civilians. He tried to change the topic first from the horrid killing by an illegal alien of the policeman not me.

California Gang Member Arrested for Allegedly Shooting a Police Officer


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4 days ago - Gustavo Perez Arriaga, a Sureño gang member, was arrested Friday for allegedly killing California police officer Ronil Singh.



Surenos street gang tied to accused California cop killer has history of ...


https://www.foxnews.com/.../surenos-...-cop-killer-ha...

3 days ago - The illegal immigrant arrested for Wednesday's murder of a California officer has been identified as a member of a Mexican-American street ...



Alleged gang member arrested in police officer's shooting Video - ABC ...


https://abcnews.go.com/.../alleged-g...-shooting-6005...

4 days ago - Police said the suspect had entered the U.S. from Mexico illegally and allegedly killedthe officer during a traffic stop.

Border agents arrest MS-13 gang member and convicted killer on ...


https://www.foxnews.com/.../border-a...nd-convicted-k...

Nov 30, 2018 - Border Patrol agents arrested a gang member and a newly released convicted murder last weekend, both said to have traveled to the border

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ok that’s all well and good, but ... why did you bring up minorities?

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Originally Posted by techman05

Okay, your drunk or high. No borders, no vetting, just cross where and how and when you like? No way of knowing who is paying taxes or who is receiving benefits that should only be permitted to legal residents or citizens? On that note, I’m done.

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Why would we not know who is paying taxes or receiving benefits?

How about this for a solution. You can make illegal immigration "legal." In return, you must be a US citizen to receive ANY federal or state benefits, and if you require healthcare you can either pay up front or return to your home country to receive it. Any children born here are legal citizens of the mothers home country and are not granted US citizenship just because they were born here. If you are caught smuggling drugs across the border, you are exiled to a secret island to fend for yourself. This method would ensure the people that are coming here to work can still do so unencumbered, and that law breakers are dealt with, and the tax payers are off the hook for any money.

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Originally Posted by SicemDawgz

How about this for a solution. You can make illegal immigration "legal." In return, you must be a US citizen to receive ANY federal or state benefits, and if you require healthcare you can either pay up front or return to your home country to receive it. Any children born here are legal citizens of the mothers home country and are not granted US citizenship just because they were born here. If you are caught smuggling drugs across the border, you are exiled to a secret island to fend for yourself. This method would ensure the people that are coming here to work can still do so unencumbered, and that law breakers are dealt with, and the tax payers are off the hook for any money.

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What did you do to deserve being a citizen here other than be born here?

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Originally Posted by SicemDawgz

How about this for a solution. You can make illegal immigration "legal." In return, you must be a US citizen to receive ANY federal or state benefits, and if you require healthcare you can either pay up front or return to your home country to receive it. Any children born here are legal citizens of the mothers home country and are not granted US citizenship just because they were born here. If you are caught smuggling drugs across the border, you are exiled to a secret island to fend for yourself. This method would ensure the people that are coming here to work can still do so unencumbered, and that law breakers are dealt with, and the tax payers are off the hook for any money.

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What did you do to be entitled to being a citizen here other than be born here?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

What did you do to be entitled to being a citizen here other than be born here?

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God placed me here to check evil idiots like you.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

What did you do to deserve being a citizen here other than be born here?

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I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express. What did you do Bub?