Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
I see no downside to the Trump campaign's legal challenges to some of the election results, in Penn., etc... No matter what "the truth" is it will be revealed. That might be:
1) there was some fraud, cheating, irregularities, questionable practices and hopefully it will all be revealed and then corrected for future elections
2) hopefully those guilty of outright fraud will be nailed, arrested and charged and those cases made known nationally, to serve as a deterrent to others
3) it will probably reveal some fraud but it was not enough to change the results...which will, at least, put to rest that Biden is indeed president-elect
4) and that will lead to a "healing" of some sorts and the country can move on.
In summary, I say just let the Trump campaign pursue this as far as they can, because in the end it will do more good than harm.
I think #3 is going to happen and I hope #4 will. But I think the potential downside to (at least) the way the Trump team is talking about the process is that it could prevent #4 from coming about. If you spend years saying 'the only way I lose is fraud" and then you lose, and you continue to claim it's only due to fraud, how is that not undermining the system? I think most people can take the comments for what they're worth, but I'm worried about others who have a harder time with reality.
And there is also the matter of the security transfer process needing to get going. Probably still some time before this is critical, but this is where baseless claims would be harmful. If you know it isn't going to change (and who knows what the man himself thinks, but I'm pretty sure many who are pushing for this stuff know better) then it's all just dirty politics (as if there was any other kind) and actually could present a security risk if you refuse to transfer in time.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
johnnylightnin
I was pretty close.
Nailed the numbers, but not the candidates.
I did poorly on my prediction (which was clearly tongue in cheek). Third party candidates and write-ins did way worse this go around. I found that interesting. I could be wrong, but I think in Texas the 5th place vote-getter from 2016 would have been third in 2020.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
inudesu
I think #3 is going to happen and I hope #4 will. But I think the potential downside to (at least) the way the Trump team is talking about the process is that it could prevent #4 from coming about. If you spend years saying 'the only way I lose is fraud" and then you lose, and you continue to claim it's only due to fraud, how is that not undermining the system? I think most people can take the comments for what they're worth, but I'm worried about others who have a harder time with reality.
And there is also the matter of the security transfer process needing to get going. Probably still some time before this is critical, but this is where baseless claims would be harmful. If you know it isn't going to change (and who knows what the man himself thinks, but I'm pretty sure many who are pushing for this stuff know better) then it's all just dirty politics (as if there was any other kind) and actually could present a security risk if you refuse to transfer in time.
Yeah. I'd hate for baseless claims to pollute the next four years (hmmmm Russian collusion, Steele Dossier, Ukraine phone call, etc etc). Thank heaven Trump is not a POS like Hillary, Biden, Obama, Comey, Brennan and the rest of the idiot league.
F Biden!
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
DawgyNWindow
Yeah. I'd hate for baseless claims to pollute the next four years (hmmmm Russian collusion, Steele Dossier, Ukraine phone call, etc etc). Thank heaven Trump is not a POS like Hillary, Biden, Obama, Comey, Brennan and the rest of the idiot league.
F Biden!
Stop being a drama queen. You will enjoy Biden.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Worried that they will not have as many billions to give to American Airlines? Noted your lack of outrage on that one.
Noticed you don't deny your globalist socialist beliefs..
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
FriscoDog
Noticed you don't deny your globalist socialist beliefs..
Not a socialist, but I am a capitalist, the world over. A nationalist capitalist system would have very poor return on capital in the aggregate relative to one that seeks returns in the US.
Globalism helps your American Airlines, too, you realize.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Stop being a drama queen. You will enjoy Biden.
Says the southern girl that spent the last 4 years drama queening.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
DawgyNWindow
Says the southern girl that spent the last 4 years drama queening.
Is calling someone a girl supposed to be an insult?
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Chaz Nuttycombe
@ChazNuttycombe
Alright, after looking at the counts in multi-member-district chambers, it looks like the current net gain for Republicans in state legislative seats across the country is +136 seats from Democrats/Independents. 23 uncalled
This is very good news..
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
turbodawg
Is calling someone a girl supposed to be an insult?
Nope. Just an assumption because this "thing" (is that better than making an assumption) spent half the summer saying "bless your heart"....a known southern girl phrase. Males don't use that phrase.
Now you know the rest of the story.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
DawgyNWindow
Nope. Just an assumption because this "thing" (is that better than making an assumption) spent half the summer saying "bless your heart"....a known southern girl phrase. Males don't use that phrase.
Now you know the rest of the story.
Weird.
Southern males don’t say that? Lawd, lawd.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
Mark Meadows told a group at a luncheon that there were basically 45 more days of the Trump admin. It's being characterized as a "goodbye speech". We'll see.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
Rudy Giuliani is a true American hero.
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Rudy Giuliani is a true American hero.
:laugh:
More like a sideshow. He's filling his pockets, so I suppose he's a good capitalist!
Re: Presidential Election 2020
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Rudy Giuliani is a true American hero.
So is Bozo the Clown. Groundbreaking children's tv pioneer.
I think it's likely a toss-up as to which is more entertaining and which has a better grasp of the law. Both clowns.
