Alsander to USL...nope, now LaTech

[Dawg06]

As far as the academic thing, there are a lot of different metrics. Some of those are very close, other Tech wins. There would be a guy on our site who could also introduce a lot of metrics that would favor ULL.

I've seen them. His metrics are laughable because they mean nothing or aren't accurate.

[DeltaBlueDawg]

I'll take your word for it....

Tech is obviously a great engineering school, and has a lot of really great programs, but here's the deal so does UL.

The schools are both really nice. I don't think there is as much of a gap either way as either school pretends their is. I just wish we would capitalize on playing one another.

I think you mean ULL. If for whatever reason we do start playing one another the UL nonsense is done.

[slappycajun]

I think you mean ULL. If for whatever reason we do start playing one another the UL nonsense is done.

Hey everyone calls it UL in Lafayette where I am at, so I'm used to it. I'm not a big name freak.

Why can't mighty Tech, and LAFAYETTE (if that makes you feel good) have a rivalry games in all sports every year.

We should play in small sports a home and home every year.

Also, I think if the schools are smart, and Hudspeth can get our program going we should play each other in football every year. One year Shreveport, one year in New Orleans. Market the hell out of it, and if scheduled correctly we could get the state of LA to focus on something besides LSU for one Saturday a year.

[Dubya261]

Hey everyone calls it UL in Lafayette where I am at, so I'm used to it. I'm not a big name freak.

Why can't mighty Tech, and LAFAYETTE (if that makes you feel good) have a rivalry games in all sports every year.

We should play in small sports a home and home every year.

Also, I think if the schools are smart, and Hudspeth can get our program going we should play each other in football every year. One year Shreveport, one year in New Orleans. Market the hell out of it, and if scheduled correctly we could get the state of LA to focus on something besides LSU for one Saturday a year.

You might as well play LSU every year, I mean do you guys really want to schedule another gimme loss every year?

[slappycajun]

Well played sir. You guys have dominated us.

This would be about trying to get a game together that would help to highlight both the programs, should draw a good crowd, and should get a Cox TV slot.

[Ktulu7]

Well played sir. You guys have dominated us.

This would be about trying to get a game together that would help to highlight both the programs, should draw a good crowd, and should get a Cox TV slot.

I don't mind playin' ULL in football sometimes, though I don't know about EVERY year, as I'd much rather visit the folks from Hattiesburg annually again... However, definitely in all other sports, our teams should be playing yearly in my opinion. Even though we got our asses kicked, I enjoyed catchin' a Tech-ULL baseball series in Lafayette. When my Dawgs aren't playin' or I can't see them for whatever reason, I go catch a ULL football game usually. Hell, I've met my future wife there at Cajun Field (no worries guys, I inducted her into Bulldog-ism and brought her to Ruston soon afterward!) and at least you guys have a FEW fans that don't worship the sons-o-bitches on the other side of the Atchafalaya...

[Dawg06]

I'll take your word for it....

Tech is obviously a great engineering school, and has a lot of really great programs, but here's the deal so does ULL.

The schools are both really nice. I don't think there is as much of a gap either way as either school pretends their is. I just wish we would capitalize on playing one another.

The guy claims that ULL is better than Tech academically because...
- ULL has a larger enrollment than Tech.
- Lafayette's population is greater than Ruston's.
- Lafayette's MSA is greater than Ruston's.
- ULL has more books & microforms in their library.
- ULL was a charter member of NCAA Division IA.
- ULL offers 1 more PhD program, and they are planning to offer 1 more in the future.
- ULL has 5 "research parks" to Tech's 0. (false)
- ULL has a larger endowment, but he grossly misrepresents the numbers. As published in the 2011 USNWR magazine, ULL's endowment is $54,213,335 compared to Tech's $47,409,922, which makes Tech's endowment larger per FTE.
- He says that Tech has no PhDs in the sciences, but yet Tech graduates more PhD students in engineering & the sciences than ULL (26 for Tech, 23 for ULL per 2010 Washington Monthly).

His only legitimate claim is ULL has greater research expenditures than Tech, but the difference isn't as drastic when you compare them per faculty member.

[Guisslapp]

His only legitimate claim is ULL has greater research expenditures than Tech, but the difference isn't as drastic when you compare them per faculty member.

Or you could compare how much intellectual property Tech generates per research dollar compared with UL LAF.

[LookingForResults]

The guy claims that ULL is better than Tech academically because...
- ULL has a larger enrollment than Tech.
- Lafayette's population is greater than Ruston's.
- Lafayette's MSA is greater than Ruston's.
- ULL has more books & microforms in their library.
- ULL was a charter member of NCAA Division IA.
- ULL offers 1 more PhD program, and they are planning to offer 1 more in the future.
- ULL has 5 "research parks" to Tech's 0. (false)
- ULL has a larger endowment, but he grossly misrepresents the numbers. As published in the 2011 USNWR magazine, ULL's endowment is $54,213,335 compared to Tech's $47,409,922, which makes Tech's endowment larger per FTE.
- He says that Tech has no PhDs in the sciences, but yet Tech graduates more PhD students in engineering & the sciences than ULL (26 for Tech, 23 for ULL per 2010 Washington Monthly).

His only legitimate claim is ULL has greater research expenditures than Tech, but the difference isn't as drastic when you compare them per faculty member.

But they research things like alligator tanning and the history of Mardi Gras!

[Dawg06]

Or you could compare how much intellectual property Tech generates per research dollar compared with UL LAF.

I'm not paying AUTM to get ULL's numbers, but I do know that Tech is #2 in the nation... and I doubt ULL is #1... lol

[slappycajun]

The guy claims that ULL is better than Tech academically because...
- ULL has a larger enrollment than Tech.
- Lafayette's population is greater than Ruston's.
- Lafayette's MSA is greater than Ruston's.
- ULL has more books & microforms in their library.
- ULL was a charter member of NCAA Division IA.
- ULL offers 1 more PhD program, and they are planning to offer 1 more in the future.
- ULL has 5 "research parks" to Tech's 0. (false)
- ULL has a larger endowment, but he grossly misrepresents the numbers. As published in the 2011 USNWR magazine, ULL's endowment is $54,213,335 compared to Tech's $47,409,922, which makes Tech's endowment larger per FTE.
- He says that Tech has no PhDs in the sciences, but yet Tech graduates more PhD students in engineering & the sciences than ULL (26 for Tech, 23 for ULL per 2010 Washington Monthly).

His only legitimate claim is ULL has greater research expenditures than Tech, but the difference isn't as drastic when you compare them per faculty member.

So ULLaf generates more research dollars. Has more research parks, etc. And a couple other categories that you refute. So the few categories we lead, combined with the number of categories you listed where you are ahead or almost tied would make the two schools fairly close right. Or is there that big of a separation in your mind?

[slappycajun]

Anyway, I came here to talk about Alsander. It appears he recommitted to you guys after committing to us in a period of three hours after the visit. Our staff has an in home with him this week.

I guess we can look forward to a few more commitments/decommitments before the week is out.

Good luck to the kid whoever ends up with him.

[Dubya261]

Anyway, I came here to talk about Alsander. It appears he recommitted to you guys after committing to us in a period of three hours after the visit. Our staff has an in home with him this week.

I guess we can look forward to a few more commitments/decommitments before the week is out.

Good luck to the kid whoever ends up with him.

Don't you have some "Sweatin' to the Oldies" to go do or something? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhZ2fYQj6IM

[Dawg06]

So ULL generates more research dollars. Has more research parks, etc. And a couple other categories that you refute. So the few categories we lead, combined with the number of categories you listed where you are ahead or almost tied would make the two schools fairly close right. Or is there that big of a separation in your mind?

First, each school has one research park and various research centers. Secondly, Tech is more productive with our research expenditures.

I'm curious as to what the "etc" is. Which few categories did ULL lead? I believe Tech was ahead in everything I listed except research expenditures, which Tech has a greater ROI.

Surely you don't think that things like enrollment, city population, MSA, etc. have anything to do with quality education.

When I look at these numbers, it's pretty clear...
1. LSU
2. Tech
3. ULL
4-13. Everybody else
14. SUNO

[DeltaBlueDawg]

No, I don't equate population size of the city, otherwise Texas Southern (Houston) would be ahead of Harvard (Cambridge, Mass).

Of course not, I think the research numbers are a pretty big deal. The category that you guys just got into with High Research activity we have been awhile.

My main point is not to say we are so much better than everyone else. Only UL and Tech are much closer than everyone purports.

Here is the breakdown of Louisiana Universities: (LSU - and flagship everything), (Tech, UL, UNO) and (Everyone else)

It's ULL. Just in case you forgot.