GATA Defense

[Dwayne From Minden]

The "system" worked against Moo U - the qb made the wrong read on the interception in the 4th and a freshman mistake in OT ...

USM was played in a tropical storm - anamolie on both sides of the ball...

[Dwayne From Minden]

Seriously though, you could see the differences between our O and Hawaii's. That was a team running a specific system and running it like a well-oiled machine. They looked light years ahead of us.

How long has Hawaee been running the system now?

Ya'll are failing to remember what Hawaii looked like the first two years June Jones was there...

It wasn't pretty

[PawDawg]

Offensive scheming is very important and I think Dykes/Franklin are very good at it.

See this is the part that is killing us. Teams don't even have to stack the box to stuff our multiple runs up the middle on 1st down. We aren't fooling anybody.

[PawDawg]

The "system" worked against Moo U - the qb made the wrong read on the interception in the 4th and a freshman mistake in OT ...

So did the defense. QBs coach put a freshman QB in a position he should not have been in w/game on the line. Bad Coaching.

[Dwayne From Minden]

So did the defense. QBs coach put a freshman QB in a position he should not have been in w/game on the line. Bad Coaching.

I really wish he had kicked the FG mainly to hear everyone bitch about why we didn't go for the endzone once the defense allowed Relf to make the drive in teh final 3 minutes....

And odds are they would of -

[PawDawg]

I really wish he had kicked the FG mainly to hear everyone bitch about why we didn't go for the endzone once the defense allowed Relf to make the drive in teh final 3 minutes....

And odds are they would of -

Odds are we will never know.

[HoustonDawg2008]

This is also the same defensive scheme that couldn't close out games last year. The D played a very good game against Miss. St, but that same D leaving receivers wide open during the Hawaii game and allowing UCA to take us to overtime in a high scoring game doesn't exactly help the argument that the offensive system is not working.

Plus, if you're wanting to use stats as justification for one system versus the other, look at Isham's stats (19th overall passer, 49th in overall offense). Also note that the USM game, he was not getting any help from his receivers when they were dropping very catchable passes. With the notable exception of Patton, our receiving corps hasn't been performing well enough for anyone to say that it's entirely on the system. Even with all of that, we are ranked 65th in the nation on offense and 100th in defense. If the D improves by stopping other teams and can get the ball to Isham, then we'd be in much better shape. But until we get some swagger on that side of the ball, I worry that we'll be seeing more of the same.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

This is also the same defensive scheme that couldn't close out games last year. The D played a very good game against Miss. St, but that same D leaving receivers wide open during the Hawaii game and allowing UCA to take us to overtime in a high scoring game doesn't exactly help the argument that the offensive system is not working.

Plus, if you're wanting to use stats as justification for one system versus the other, look at Isham's stats (19th overall passer, 49th in overall offense). Also note that the USM game, he was not getting any help from his receivers when they were dropping very catchable passes. With the notable exception of Patton, our receiving corps hasn't been performing well enough for anyone to say that it's entirely on the system. Even with all of that, we are ranked 65th in the nation on offense and 100th in defense. If the D improves by stopping other teams and can get the ball to Isham, then we'd be in much better shape. But until we get some swagger on that side of the ball, I worry that we'll be seeing more of the same.

Excellent points.

[Bigdog13]

Were did Crowton's defense rank back in the good ole days?

Were did Middle's, Zona's, Texas Tech's, ect. defenses rank?

Y'all can look at these stats and judge the defense, but you all know the defense did its job against USM and Miss. State. So if I admit the defense could have played better for 1 quarter against Houston and 2 quarters against Hawaii will y'all admit that this Franklin System nonsense and our HC isn't working?

No. Not at all.

And again our pass defense is the issue. USM was played during a typhoon and Miss St. can't throw the ball.

[dawg80]

Fundamentals:

1) tackle with your head up, eyes on ball carrier
2) DBs turn and find the ball when still in flight
3) DLs if you can't get the sack, put your hands up
4) do not over-pursue, backside containment
5) CBs jump the route when you have safety help

[Geaux Dawgs]

Were did Crowton's defense rank back in the good ole days?

Were did Middle's, Zona's, Texas Tech's, ect. defenses rank?

Y'all can look at these stats and judge the defense, but you all know the defense did its job against USM and Miss. State. So if I admit the defense could have played better for 1 quarter against Houston and 2 quarters against Hawaii will y'all admit that this Franklin System nonsense and our HC isn't working?

USM was in the rain, hard to throw and MSU can't throw.

I agree our HC needs to learn to be a HC.......

Our defensive issues with Spangler are not a 2011 issue.

[Bigdog13]

We're 1-4, so I guess it depends on what the point of the "system" is.

Seriously though, you could see the differences between our O and Hawaii's. That was a team running a specific system and running it like a well-oiled machine. They looked light years ahead of us. I don't think there is anything wrong with the system as it is, but these coaches are having a REAL hard time getting our players to properly execute the system...it's not like we don't have talent. On the offensive side of the ball, this team has the most talent we've had in a very long time.

Recruiting is important and I think Dykes is very good at it. Offensive scheming is very important and I think Dykes/Franklin are very good at it. Motivation and in game coaching are also very important...that's where I'm not sure Dykes and Franklin cut the mustard. Schemes are great, but you've gotta know when to change the plans in reaction to the other team. We're not good at that. Nick is a freshmen, but all the INTs are starting to hurt us.

I don't know where I'm going with this. I don't know if it's a problem with the system, a problem with the players, or a problem with the coaching, but we're 1-4 and we have no killer instinct.

There is A problem...any way you slice it.

I agree with a whole lot of what you are saying here including the strengths and weaknesses of our coaching staff.

Where I disagree is the comment on the talent level. I think we are really lacking in WR talent. Outside of Patton who is the real deal I think there is not much there. Or at least not much that we have seen. Posters, myself included, can clamor for other players to get PT but that is still speculation. The dropoff between our #1 WR and our #2 and #3 WR's is way too big. It's a chasm. When Crowton was here for instance we had Troy but Cangelosi, Daigre, and Jordan were very good WR's. I really feel like we have a weak overall offensive line. I think we have an incredibly un-athletic offensive line. While our QB does indeed have talent, the lack of experience often renders his talent level moot. Time is the only cure for this.

[Bigdog13]

I really wish he had kicked the FG mainly to hear everyone bitch about why we didn't go for the endzone once the defense allowed Relf to make the drive in teh final 3 minutes....

And odds are they would of -

Amen. We would have heard a tremendous amount of complaining regardless. Also you are spot on on how Hawaii looked when JJ got there.

[Bigdog13]

So did the defense. QBs coach put a freshman QB in a position he should not have been in w/game on the line. Bad Coaching.

You mean our coach asked our QB to pass the ball? Again I am totally not sold on your theory that he only had one choice of where to go with the ball. I don't buy it for a second. It would almost be unheard of. There was an open WR being covered by RB that if thrown to would have had a big gain, almost certain 1st down, possible TD, Creer was also available for the dump off. Our QB CHOSE to throw the ball into the endzone and it was picked off. And even at that, it was a poor throw. It was poor execution. If no one was open and the QB had no options I think the playcalling would come into question. But their were definitely options. Our QB chose the wrong one and then compounded the error buy NOT throwing it where would only be caught by our WR OR go out of bounds. This QB is talented. He can make that throw. He just messed up.

[Beaver-Dog]

gata geta defense!