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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by LookingForResults View Post
    It's a 5 year contract with an $800k buyout. I think this is a ridiculous waste of money. First, anything offered will never be enough if the right AQ comes calling; and if the right one doesn't call nothing more is needed. Being unable to raise the funds for the SEZ and being unable to take the band and spirit groups to Tech's biggest bowl ever, yet being able to find hundreds of thousands of dollars for a raise that provides ZERO assurance of the sought- after continuity is that he BVDV's most STUPID move to date - easily out-distancing the lion's share lunacy.
    It's not about the money, it is about doing what is right and showing him respect. If we don't show him respect and appreciation it will encourage his departure the first real opportunity he gets and discourage other coaches regarding our program. I personally think SD is around for a while, he is our type of guy, he seems like the type of guy who takes pride in what he does, not to look good or make more money, but to build something important in players lives, the community and university. The more he wins the more we should offer him, as long as we continue to increase his salary as it is deserved, he will stay. I hope in his new deal we offer him a big percentage of any BCS payday if we make it.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Smart move on our part in my opinion.


    2 year extension, bump salary up to $750K, add more incentives (for the entire staff, not to mention raises for them as well), and make it a flat $5M buyout regardless of when he leaves, along with a home and home. If an AQ wants him, they can afford it. Put it in writing that in two years or a BCS bowl berth next year, both parties can revisit the contract issue again.

    A worthwhile gamble for us. Next year looks to be a sure-fire 9-10 win season at least, and the year after that the "system" and SD recruited players should be in place for another big year. If we have dreams of big-time football, then the admin has to step up and act like it.
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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by ANODESSEY View Post
    It's not about the money, it is about doing what is right and showing him respect. If we don't show him respect and appreciation it will encourage his departure the first real opportunity he gets and discourage other coaches regarding our program. I personally think SD is around for a while, he is our type of guy, he seems like the type of guy who takes pride in what he does, not to look good or make more money, but to build something important in players lives, the community and university. The more he wins the more we should offer him, as long as we continue to increase his salary as it is deserved, he will stay. I hope in his new deal we offer him a big percentage of any BCS payday if we make it.
    Rediculous!

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by ANODESSEY View Post
    It's not about the money, it is about doing what is right and showing him respect. If we don't show him respect and appreciation it will encourage his departure the first real opportunity he gets and discourage other coaches regarding our program. I personally think SD is around for a while, he is our type of guy, he seems like the type of guy who takes pride in what he does, not to look good or make more money, but to build something important in players lives, the community and university. The more he wins the more we should offer him, as long as we continue to increase his salary as it is deserved, he will stay. I hope in his new deal we offer him a big percentage of any BCS payday if we make it.
    That has nothing to do with anything. Completely off base.

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    I'm for the raise. It shows we aren't a total cheapskate program that doesnt take care of it's coaches. Yeah we need money for the SEZ and for our BOP but this is a good move and when he hauls tail next season we will have 800k to entice some other young coach. I know some of you don't like him but we are WAC champs and are about to play in the biggest bowl of our entire programs history. That alone is worth it to me and if he wins another next year it will have voided all of your arguments over it.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by KSDAWG View Post
    I'm for the raise. It shows we aren't a total cheapskate program that doesnt take care of it's coaches. Yeah we need money for the SEZ and for our BOP but this is a good move and when he hauls tail next season we will have 800k to entice some other young coach. I know some of you don't like him but we are WAC champs and are about to play in the biggest bowl of our entire programs history. That alone is worth it to me and if he wins another next year it will have voided all of your arguments over it.
    Contracts don't mean anything. You re-negotiate only if it benefits you.

    You folks that want to throw money at Dykes FOR DOING HIS JOB would make excellent union followers.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Doing his job will get him hired elsewhere. He is a gonner within the next two seasons. We just upped the buyout to benefit us. That and he was IMHO, underpaid.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by KSDAWG View Post
    Doing his job will get him hired elsewhere. He is a gonner within the next two seasons. We just upped the buyout to benefit us. That and he was IMHO, underpaid.
    So is it settled? We did up the buyout?

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    So is it settled? We did up the buyout?
    If we did, it's a new development and the first I've heard of it.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    If that's what we're throwing at him, you're probably right. Personally, I think programs like USM would have to think long and hard before they rolled out 1.2-1.5 mil to get a new coach.

    Bruce is doing and has things I'm not in favor of. Extending SD's contract could be the right thing if it's done right.
    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    I'll say again. It MUST be structured to benefit Tech.
    Quote Originally Posted by hookdown View Post
    Smart move on our part in my opinion.


    2 year extension, bump salary up to $750K, add more incentives (for the entire staff, not to mention raises for them as well), and make it a flat $5M buyout regardless of when he leaves, along with a home and home. If an AQ wants him, they can afford it. Put it in writing that in two years or a BCS bowl berth next year, both parties can revisit the contract issue again.

    A worthwhile gamble for us. Next year looks to be a sure-fire 9-10 win season at least, and the year after that the "system" and SD recruited players should be in place for another big year. If we have dreams of big-time football, then the admin has to step up and act like it.
    Quote Originally Posted by KSDAWG View Post
    Doing his job will get him hired elsewhere. He is a gonner within the next two seasons. We just upped the buyout to benefit us. That and he was IMHO, underpaid.
    These. And yes I do like restructuring it right now.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    The only benefit of restructuring is continuity. It's worth something, but not a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LookingForResults View Post
    The only benefit of restructuring is continuity. It's worth something, but not a lot.
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    Could be cheaper to restructure this year than next year.

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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Are we finally going to give our teacher's a raise, too? This is a "University" after all.
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    Re: From the negotiating room

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    Only if Tech is getting something guaranteed in return like more buyout money AND a home and home with the hiring school (which can also be bought out). If we are just increasing his contract to keep him happy or to fend off big time job offers we are wasting our limited resources.
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