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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    You want mergers, statewide? Let's start with Tech-Grambling and NSU-LSUA. Now, those make sense. But, all of sudden, the same political forces y'all rail against will be your crutch as to why this is not possible.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    You want mergers, statewide? Let's start with Tech-Grambling and NSU-LSUA. Now, those make sense. But, all of sudden, the same political forces y'all rail against will be your crutch as to why this is not possible.
    That doesn't make sense for the citizens of S'port/Bossier....

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Budget approved:

    http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/2...es-budget-bill

    One could say it's politics as usual in BR.

    Of course, that means another round of mid-year budget cuts, January 1st. And this same issue will be revisited this time next year.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    That doesn't make sense for the citizens of S'port/Bossier....
    I did say it was a start.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Dang Dawg80, what's up with you lately? Everything ok?

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Dang Dawg80, what's up with you lately? Everything ok?
    If it were any better, I couldn't stand it!

    I do appreciate the concern, but there is no need to be.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    No, they need a 4-year university that meets their needs. Which LSUS currently does.

    LSUS can NOT be replaced with anything. You can mention it repeatedly all you want. But, that argument is EXACTLY the point of contention. It was also the tipping point with the state legislators I spoke to, and the very reason the votes for the merger were not there.

    Your statement of suggesting future LSUS students should opt for a community/vocational college instead is pure lunacy. And it shows just how out of touch you are. Of course, you are not the only one to demonstrate how clueless you are on this subject. Fortunately, the legislature understood the truth. The pro-merger bunch knew the light of truth had been shined on their scheme, and that is the reason they quietly withdrew, not wanting to face a HUGE defeat on the floor.

    I think the issue of a Tech-LSUS merger is dead. Based on the feedback I've gotten, it won't be brought back up in the legislature again anytime soon. It's unfortunate, if you support such a merger, that the wrong people were driving the bus. They have tainted the issue, and now, no sensible proposal of such a merger will get a chance to be reviewed. At least, that's opinion of one in-the-know person I have spoken to recently. But, we'll see.
    4,000 out of 500,000 is not a need, that's barely surviving on left-overs, as has been stated before these few would still have a home with the amendments that required BPCC/SU to offer on campus classes for those who didn't meet Tech enrollment criteria and would then be able to transfer into Tech. This will probably be my last response to you on this subject, I presented the facts http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showt...=1#post1237450 and you had no argument or rebuttal to support your position other than arguing whether you had read a report.

    You propose that Tech start it's own campus with what money? The same money LSU-BR will be using to fund their "commitment" (aka NOTHING).

    I do agree that, in this state, the wrong people were driving the bus (the SBC businesses/community), if/when the LSU-System and the One-lsu coalition drives the bus they'll be offloaded faster than you can say tigah-bait...

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Dawg80 wins this thread's fail award.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by FishingBack View Post
    Dawg80 wins this thread's fail award.
    I'm afraid I have to agree on this one. I gave him his chance to tell us what's going on that's actually making him feel this way. Because the TECH / LSUS merger was a win win for all sides that N. La local-yokels screwed up royally, as usual,!

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    I said I was finished with this, because there simply is no argument for not having this merger - but, I had to post again. It is as simple as the below:

    LSUS/Tech merger means a Tier One Research University for Shreveport/Bossier
    It means growth of Tech research due to the urban setting of S/B.
    It means growth of business in S/B (they already have a base - unlike Ruston, but does mean more growth to research in Ruston, as well)
    It will leave no one behind. Those non-traditional students can go to BPCC and the ones that want and can earn a degree can transfer credits to Tech Shreveport or Ruston.
    It will save money by administrative streamlining.
    The argument of Tech/Grambling or NSU/LSUA holds no merit due to politics with Grambling and NSU nor LSUA being a Tier One Research University.
    The mechanics of doing this are not complicated.
    There was a group against it, but they chose to confuse the public by saying LSUS was lsu - they had no other argument than to appeal to ignorance.
    LSUS is not going to grow - they have tried and still at the same enrollment.
    The online courses being offered as the "Committment Plan" are a joke and everyone realizes that - can't have PE without hands on, costs will be lsu tuition not LSUS tuition, and STILL no Tier One and no research.

    Those make up a very compelling argument for going forward. I hope the next round of evaluating this is better than this round. I hope the leaders step up and do their duty, instead of misleading the public. Absolutely no reason that this shouldn't have happened.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    I was watching the news and apparently Carmody and Adley got into a heated debate about the merger and it even got a little physical. I wish Carmody would beat his ass. Maybe it would knock some sense into him.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    You want mergers, statewide? Let's start with Tech-Grambling and NSU-LSUA. Now, those make sense. But, all of sudden, the same political forces y'all rail against will be your crutch as to why this is not possible.
    Everyone against the merger proposes Tech-Grambling, because they think the reason it's not talked about is some sort of racist agenda. Merging Tech and Grambling amounts to closing Grambling. There are obvious political issues that prevent a Grambling-Tech merger from happening and the fact is that Grambling serves a different student base for Lincoln parish than Tech does. With Tech's admissions standards and fees, those students would no longer have an option for education in the area. I think there are plenty of people who are for closing Grambling, but most people are smart enough to realize it just isn't going to happen. NSU-LSUA seems like a fine candidate for a merger, but there doesn't seem to be any driving force behind the merger. The LSUA people would surely oppose it, much like LSUS did. As far as I can tell, the city of Alexandria doesn't have any desire for the merger to happen so the support isn't there.

    The reason Tech-LSUS made some sense as a merger target is because there were actually reasons beyond cost savings to perform the merger. A Tech-Grambling or NSU-LSUA merger would reduce costs for the state but wouldn't strengthen anything. Tech-LSUS had the potential to strengthen Louisiana's higher education system with the potential to reduce costs as well. It also had the potential to better serve the north west Louisiana region. It had some support in the community which is rare in these types of discussions. In other words, it had a chance to succeed because there were some unique and compelling reasons for the merger to happen. That's something none of the other mergers mentioned have going for them.

    You have managed to stumble on one good point in all your blather on this subject. We haven't taken the pro merger people to task when they make asinine statements like we have taken you to task for yours. Maybe we should focus our efforts on educating them since it seems you have shut down your ability to have an open mind on the subject.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by bdawg34 View Post
    I was watching the news and apparently Carmody and Adley got into a heated debate about the merger and it even got a little physical. I wish Carmody would beat his ass. Maybe it would knock some sense into him.
    Good for Carmody. Nothing short of a willingness for physical confrontation will have any effect on these irrational, self-centered, non-progressive, troglodytes. A tenacious and steadfast response, combined with the continued reduction in State revenues, will eventually win out. Shreveport's continuance as a viable city depends on it.

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    Re: The (LA Tech/LSUS) Merger Thread II

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    ...troglodytes...


    I love this term, haven't heard/used it in awhile...


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