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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    My biggest concern with Holtz is the LACK of passion the team exhibited. I've seen outmanned teams play (poorly) with fire....last years team looked like they were just watching the clock.
    That is EXACTLY what the USF fans posted here and on the CUSA board that we should expect from a Skip Holtz coached team. Albeit very bitter, those fans were absolutely geniuses!!! How did they know this?

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    That is EXACTLY what the USF fans posted here and on the CUSA board that we should expect from a Skip Holtz coached team . . .
    I know. They, along with most ECU posters, say he is a horrible recruiter.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    I am more concerned with competitiveness. I don't want to see another team steal our manhood like Army and Rice did. I want to see a tough team. I want to see some guys (other than Dixon) make some plays with the ball on offense.... and I want to see better plays called to put them in a position to do that. I think if we improve, the record will take care of itself.
    This!!

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    T1,

    I really hope that you are proved to be the wisest poster who has ever graced a message board.

    My biggest concern with Holtz is the LACK of passion the team exhibited. I've seen outmanned teams play (poorly) with fire....last years team looked like they were just watching the clock.
    This is the inscrutable mystery of Skip Holtz. Talk to him--his passion is evident, even infectious. Why did this not translate to the team?

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    This is the inscrutable mystery of Skip Holtz. Talk to him--his passion is evident, even infectious. Why did this not translate to the team?
    I submit that the team watched Holtz as he struggled with the easiest of situational decisions and consistently (and stubbornly) chose the grossly conservative answer with completely ineffective and predictable results. Once it is painfully obvious that the coach is unprepared it becomes a very demoralizing situation for the players and shows up in their hopeless effort level in the game.

    We don't need a "gamble at all costs" coach but we also don't need one who is trying to win every game by a final score of 3-0 either.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    I know. They, along with most ECU posters, say he is a horrible recruiter.
    This appears to be a falsehood. (besides, the assistants do most of the recruiting).

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Very true and Tech hired Skip because they thought he was an experienced Head Coach able to take over a winning program
    and continue to build. Not revert back to the old losing ways of Bicknell!

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    This appears to be a falsehood. (besides, the assistants do most of the recruiting).
    It is not a falsehood. USF is decimated. He would golf instead of attending high school football camps on campus. He and his team of assistants left USF with bottom of the barrel talent. To the point true freshman were displacing Holtz recruits.

    I don't know what investment you have in Holtz, but it is silly to say something two schools have factually experienced appears to be a falsehood.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    I'm saying it looks like they did a nice job last year and are doing a better job this year. You have to remember that none of these assistants were on his staff at ECU or USF (and they do most of the recruiting). Totally different recruiters... totally different part of the country.... totally different school he's recruiting to.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Group-think is a difficult disease to overcome. But, you, T1, seem to be unaffected.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by OLDBLUE View Post
    Group-think is a difficult disease to overcome. But, you, T1, seem to be unaffected.
    But the scary thing is .... I'm usually wrong and the group is usually right.

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Quote Originally Posted by OLDBLUE View Post
    Group-think is a difficult disease to overcome. But, you, T1, seem to be unaffected.
    Then T1 would be on the right side of this debate. Groupthink occurs when group members make a poor evaluation or reach a bad decision because they choose conformity and unanimity over critical analysis. So, good for you T1 (somebody has to have your back now and then)!

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    One of the main reasons I argue here is because of "group think." There are uninformed people who conform to group think because they know no better. I think Holtz has proven himself at Uconn and ECU and he had 1 bad year at USF (2 good years). He inherited a dumpster fire at Tech, and I guaran-damn-tee you he is going to straighten this crap out. It was a good hire.... we hired a guy who knows what it takes to win. He is going to get fired because our boosters are dumb and will not give him time... but the next guy is going to inherit a good situation because of Skip Holtz. It's a shame that Dykes screwed Tech over, but... good for him, he's a millionaire now!

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    T1, keep posting. I don't know if you remember LFR (Looking For Results), but it seems you have taken his place. I don't like to read the same BS all the time. I like a different point of view....especially if that point of view makes sense or can be validated. You keep everyone on their toes and that is a good thing!

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    Re: Fire Holtz

    Even if you are wrong.

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