Maddawg- Your chair example disproves nothing. It actually backs my point. Faith that the chair will hold you isn't knowing the chair will hold you. I have faith that a chair will hold me bc chairs have been PROVEN countless times to hold me. That is hard evidence. There is no hard evidence of God's existence. To some people, the complexity of humans and consciousness and Earth and outer space points to an almighty creator. To others, it points in the opposite direction. Who is right and who is wrong? Of course you think you are right, as does most everyone. But that is not KNOWING that you are right. You believe you are right. Doesn't make it right. That is pretty simple.Originally Posted by maddawg
I can sit in a chair, and repeat over and over until I am satisfied. At that point, I know the chair will hold me, so it's no longer about faith bc it has been proven.
God's existence is based solely on faith. There is nothing wrong with having faith. But it is absolutely wrong to say believing is knowing.
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