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    Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    Sagarin Predictor Ratings Week 1 Projections: 08-29-2014, 01:58 AM
    Using the Sagarin Pure Points ratings with a 3.12 homefield advantage, Tech is projected to finish 7-5, 6-2.

    L 36.34 at Oklahoma
    L 11.12 at ULL
    L 9.65 at North Texas
    W 12.23 vs NSU
    L 24.22 at Auburn
    W 9.20 vs UTEP
    W 2.46 vs UTSA
    W 0.33 at USM
    W 3.17 vs WKU
    W 3.30 at UAB
    W 0.53 at ODU
    L 1.21 vs Rice

    Sagarin Predictor Ratings Week 1 recap and Week 2 projections
    Week 1 Sagarin Predictor straight-up record--73-11 (.869), 2013 Week 1--60-15 (.800)
    Homefield advantage stays at 3.12 in the Week 2 ratings.
    76 teams are projected to be bowl-eligible at 6-6 or better (76 bowl bids to fill).

    Of the 11 games projected incorrectly in Week 1, there were 5 C-USA games:
    UAB losing by 3.73 to Troy (won 48-10)
    WKU losing by 7.78 to Bowling Green (won 59-31)
    FIU beating Bethune-Cookman (lost 14-12)
    UTSA losing by 15.43 at Houston (won 27-7)
    UTEP losing at New Mexico 7.07 (won 31-24)

    Tech projected to finish 7-5, 6-2 (no change from Week 1 ratings)
    L 16-48 at Oklahoma (projected L by 36.34)
    L 9.91 at ULL (up from L by 11.12 last week)
    L 8.56 at North Texas (up from L by 9.65)
    W 13.22 vs NSU (up from W by 12.23)
    L 32.07 at Auburn (down from L by 24.22)
    W 9.41 vs UTEP (up from W by 9.20)
    W 1.54 vs UTSA (down from W by 2.46)
    W 1.53 at USM (up from W by 0.33)
    W 2.64 vs WKU (down from W by 3.17)
    W 2.56 at UAB (down from W by 3.30)
    W 2.16 at ODU (up from W by 0.53)
    L 0.63 vs Rice (up from L by 1.21)
    ''Don't be a bad dagh..."

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post

    Sagarin Predictor Ratings Week 1 recap and Week 2 projections
    Week 1 Sagarin Predictor straight-up record--73-11 (.869), 2013 Week 1--60-15 (.800)
    Homefield advantage stays at 3.12 in the Week 2 ratings.
    76 teams are projected to be bowl-eligible at 6-6 or better (76 bowl bids to fill).

    Of the 11 games projected incorrectly in Week 1, there were 5 C-USA games:
    UAB losing by 3.73 to Troy (won 48-10)
    WKU losing by 7.78 to Bowling Green (won 59-31)
    FIU beating Bethune-Cookman (lost 14-12)
    UTSA losing by 15.43 at Houston (won 27-7)
    UTEP losing at New Mexico 7.07 (won 31-24)

    Tech projected to finish 7-5, 6-2 (no change from Week 1 ratings)
    L 16-48 at Oklahoma (projected L by 36.34)
    L 9.91 at ULL (up from L by 11.12 last week)
    L 8.56 at North Texas (up from L by 9.65)
    W 13.22 vs NSU (up from W by 12.23)
    L 32.07 at Auburn (down from L by 24.22)
    W 9.41 vs UTEP (up from W by 9.20)
    W 1.54 vs UTSA (down from W by 2.46)
    W 1.53 at USM (up from W by 0.33)
    W 2.64 vs WKU (down from W by 3.17)
    W 2.56 at UAB (down from W by 3.30)
    W 2.16 at ODU (up from W by 0.53)
    L 0.63 vs Rice (up from L by 1.21)
    Looks like Sagarin has a problem with predicting CUSA...

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by GermDawg View Post
    Looks like Sagarin has a problem with predicting CUSA...
    Except for FIU not pulling its weight... this looks like some nice data points against to other G-5 conferences.. A win each against MWC, AAC, MAC, and Sun Belt!

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Interesting. I think we split ULL and UNT, lose to WKU and UTSA though. So I'm predicting 6-6.

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by DocMarvin362 View Post
    Interesting. I think we split ULL and UNT, lose to WKU and UTSA though. So I'm predicting 6-6.
    I would take 6-6 and pay good money for it...
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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by domangue View Post
    Except for FIU not pulling its weight... this looks like some nice data points against to other G-5 conferences.. A win each against MWC, AAC, MAC, and Sun Belt!
    TWO wins against the MAC!

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    I would take 6-6 and pay good money for it...
    I will pich in half.

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    DFM, thanks for setting up the thread.

    This season is very much like early last year when the margin between 8-4 and 4-8 (or possibly worse) is very small. Those last six games with no margin bigger than 2.64 and a 3.12 homefield advantage is an eye-opener. Running the table except for Rice is still a tall order with three of those projected wins being road games.

    I'd take 6-6 with the projected guaranteed bowl bid right now and not think twice about it.

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Note: Updated to include Penn State as a projected bowl-eligible team.

    Sagarin Predictor Ratings Week 2 recap with Week 3 projections

    Week 2 Sagarin Predictor straight-up record--64-10 (.865), 2013 Week 2--65-10 (.867)
    Season to date--137-21 (.867), 2013 after Week 2--125-25 (.833)

    Homefield advantage is at 3.89 in the Week 3 ratings, up from 3.12 in Week 2.

    77 teams are projected to be bowl-eligible at 6-6 or better (76 bowl bids to fill) going into Week 3, up 1 from Week 2.
    AAC--6, ACC--11, Big 12--7, Big Ten--7, C-USA--8, Indy--3, MAC--8, MWC--6, Pac 12--7, $EC--10, SBC--4

    5 teams are projected to finish undefeated before conference championship games--
    Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, Oklahoma, Oregon.

    Marshall was projected 12-0 last week, but dropped to 11-1 this week since it is projected to lose by 0.17 at Akron in Week 4. Boise State, Northern Illinois, and BYU are the other G5 teams projected to finish 11-1.

    Here were the 10 teams projected to lose in FBS games that won in Week 2:
    BYU (won at Texas 41-7, projected to lose by 7.64)
    Central Michigan (won at Purdue 38-17, projected to lose by 5.33)
    Louisiana Tech (won at ULL 48-20, projected to lose by 9.91)
    Eastern Kentucky (won at Miami OH 17-10, projected to lose by 0.51)
    Missouri (won vs Toledo 49-24, projected to lose by 0.49)
    Nevada (won vs Washington State 24-13, projected to lose by 2.43)
    New Mexico State (won at Georgia State 34-31, projected to lose by 3.27)
    Northern Illinois (won at Northwestern 23-15, projected to lose by 7.40)
    USC (won at Stanford 13-10, projected to lose by 5.82)
    Virginia Tech (won at Ohio State 35-21, projected to lose by 14.01)

    Tech projected to finish 9-3, 7-1 C-USA West 1st place (up from 7-5, 6-2 C-USA West 3rd place in Week 2 projection)
    L 16-48
    at Oklahoma (projected L by 36.34)
    W 48-20 at ULL (projected L by 9.91)
    L by 8.43 at North Texas (up from L by 8.56)
    W by 15.51 vs NSU (up from W by 13.22)
    L by 30.23 at Auburn (up from L by 32.07)
    W by 11.06 vs UTEP (up from W by 9.41)
    W by 2.73 vs UTSA (up from W by 1.54)
    W by 5.22 at USM (up from W by 1.53)
    W by 4.87 vs WKU (up from W by 2.64)
    W by 1.55 at UAB (down from W by 2.56)
    W by 3.36 at ODU (up from W by 2.16)
    W by 2.09 vs Rice (up from L by 0.63)

    Other Week 3 C-USA Projected Results
    Marshall W by 9.80 vs Ohio
    Middle Tennessee W by 4.65 vs Western Kentucky
    Rice L by 27.81 at Texas A&M
    FAU W by 5.33 vs Tulsa
    UTSA L by 21.56 at Oklahoma State
    UTEP W by 12.21 vs New Mexico State
    UAB W by 35.42 vs Alabama A&M
    ODU W by 13.45 vs Eastern Michigan
    USM L by 44.65 at Alabama
    FIU L by 18.08 vs Pittsburgh
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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    Sagarin Predictor Ratings Week 2 recap with Week 3 projections to come after the new ratings are posted
    Week 2 Sagarin Predictor straight-up record--64-10 (.865), 2013 Week 2--65-10 (.867)
    Season to date--137-21 (.867), 2013 after Week 2--125-25 (.833)
    Homefield advantage was at 3.12 in the Week 2 ratings.
    76 teams were projected to be bowl-eligible at 6-6 or better (76 bowl bids to fill) going into Week 2

    Here were the 10 teams projected to lose in FBS games that won in Week 2:
    BYU (won at Texas 41-7, projected to lose by 7.64)
    Central Michigan (won at Purdue 38-17, projected to lose by 5.33)
    Louisiana Tech (won at ULL 48-20, projected to lose by 9.91)
    Eastern Kentucky (won at Miami OH 17-10, projected to lose by 0.51)
    Missouri (won vs Toledo 49-24, projected to lose by 0.49)
    Nevada (won vs Washington State 24-13, projected to lose by 2.43)
    New Mexico State (won at Georgia State 34-31, projected to lose by 3.27)
    Northern Illinois (won at Northwestern 23-15, projected to lose by 7.40)
    USC (won at Stanford 13-10, projected to lose by 5.82)
    Virginia Tech (won at Ohio State 35-21, projected to lose by 14.01)
    ...So he only missed our game by a net of 38 points? Hell, if I was that bad at my job I'd get fired.

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    ...So he only missed our game by a net of 38 points? Hell, if I was that bad at my job I'd get fired.
    It's been feast or famine this year so far. The overall percentage correct has been improved, but a large number of the misses have been WAY off.

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    We are going to win out with a loss to Auburn.

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Is Sagarin any better than the old DUNKEL INDEX?

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Houston Techsan View Post
    Is Sagarin any better than the old DUNKEL INDEX?
    Game 357-358: Louisiana Tech at UL-Lafayette (7:00 p.m. EST)
    Dunkel
    Ratings: Louisiana Tech 73.472; UL-Lafayette 84.698
    Dunkel Line: UL-Lafayette
    by 11; 52

    Vegas Line: UL-Lafayette by 14; 56 1/2
    Dunkel Pick: Louisiana
    Tech (+14); Under

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    Re: Reality Check's Weekly Sagarin Predictor Thread...

    Game 185-186: Louisiana Tech at Oklahoma (7:00 p.m. EST)
    Dunkel
    Ratings: Louisiana Tech 64.045; Oklahoma 116.205
    Dunkel Line: Oklahoma by 52;
    58
    Vegas Line: Oklahoma by 38; 51 1/2
    Dunkel Pick: Oklahoma (-38); Over

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