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    Let's keep it real.

    Does anyone believe UAB would be playing for the championship of CUSA if the games weren't being played in Birmingham? I mean, they just lost 2 road games to teams at the bottom half of the conference the week before the tournament.

    I would enjoy hearing an explanation of why losing ONE game in OT in the opponent's hometown means MORE than 5 months of winning games all over the conference. It's not right.
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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    March Madness and TV Ratings

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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    No way UAB wins one postseason game outside of Birmingham. Conference regular season championships mean nothing and it is definitely wrong. Conference regular season champions should receive the automatic NCAA bid, not a friggin NIT bid! Nobody gives a crap about that. Conference tournaments should be a "last chance to make the NCAA tournament" and get an NIT guaranteed bid.

    The NCAA selection committee wants weaker teams from "non-Major" conferences because it makes their agenda easier (more "Major" conference teams going further in the NCAA tournament = more $$$$). As long as we allow Big 12 officials to dictate who advances in the CUSA tournament this will not change.

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    I'm hoping UAB barely beats MTSU and then gets completely destroyed in a play in game. Not good for the Conference, but the CUSA officials need to pull their head out of their asses and figure out how to do a neutral site.

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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    No way UAB wins one postseason game outside of Birmingham. Conference regular season championships mean nothing and it is definitely wrong. Conference regular season champions should receive the automatic NCAA bid, not a friggin NIT bid! Nobody gives a crap about that. Conference tournaments should be a "last chance to make the NCAA tournament" and get an NIT guaranteed bid.
    I defy someone/anyone to argue with this LOGIC. Like he said, the conference tournament should be for the NIT (or perhaps an at large invite) instead of making it more important the freakin ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON!! Who does that? The automatic bid should go to the regular season champion if a team wins it outright. Only if the regular season championship is split should the NCAA bid be determined by the conference tournament. Otherwise the conference tournament should be for the NIT bid.
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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    I defy someone/anyone to argue with this LOGIC. Like he said, the conference tournament should be for the NIT (or perhaps an at large invite) instead of making it more important the freakin ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON!! Who does that? The automatic bid should go to the regular season champion if a team wins it outright. Only if the regular season championship is split should the NCAA bid be determined by the conference tournament. Otherwise the conference tournament should be for the NIT bid.
    I agree, but that's not going to happen because then there is no reason to have a conference tournament. An alternative could be that the regular season champ hosts the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    I agree, but that's not going to happen because then there is no reason to have a conference tournament. An alternative could be that the regular season champ hosts the tournament.
    I can agree that the LEAST you can do is to allow the regular season champion to host the conference tournament. Otherwise make it for the NIT bid or for possibly padding one's resume for an at large bid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBLUE View Post
    March Madness and TV Ratings
    I'll bite. What's it do for TV ratings during March Madness?
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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    I'll bite. What's it do for TV ratings during March Madness?
    TV ratings get confused with TV money.

    Part of the TV negotiations BB did involve a conference tournament. He scrapped together a package with CBSS and FS1 in order to offset some of the money he was throwing away on the tournament.

    It's time for somebody to do an evaluation on the G5 tournaments. Which, if any, actually make money. How many conference champions from G5s have been knocked out of the NCAA completely by losing one game in 3 days away from home?

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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    So the G5 tournaments lose money and often knock out the best team from going to the NCAA Tournament? Makes sense to me.

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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    So the G5 tournaments lose money and often knock out the best team from going to the NCAA Tournament? Makes sense to me.
    The American probably makes money. Maybe some of the mid-western or eastern conferences with a closer footprint of schools. I doubt the MWC makes money.

    The unknown formula would involve how much a season TV package is worth to guarantee 3 games (2 to CBSS and 1 to FS1) in the tournament. W/out looking it up, we didn't get many regular season games from either CBSS or FS1 as a total conference compared to the MWC.

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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    It's all about dollars. Is the Ivy League the only basketball conference that awards the bid to their regular season conference champion?

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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    TV ratings get confused with TV money.

    Part of the TV negotiations BB did involve a conference tournament. He scrapped together a package with CBSS and FS1 in order to offset some of the money he was throwing away on the tournament.

    It's time for somebody to do an evaluation on the G5 tournaments. Which, if any, actually make money. How many conference champions from G5s have been knocked out of the NCAA completely by losing one game in 3 days away from home?
    With conference tournaments being aired on every sports channel in existence, what difference does it make for CUSA in terms of TV ratings? The same teams would be playing if it wasn't for the automatic bid. I've always equated "March Madness" to the NCAA tournament itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockdog View Post
    It's all about dollars. Is the Ivy League the only basketball conference that awards the bid to their regular season conference champion?
    But they don't have a tournament.

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    Re: Let's keep it real.

    Quote Originally Posted by rockdog View Post
    It's all about dollars. Is the Ivy League the only basketball conference that awards the bid to their regular season conference champion?
    What dollars? How many dollars? I think it's more about TV appearances during the season as part of the package? What is the value of that?

    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    With conference tournaments being aired on every sports channel in existence, what difference does it make for CUSA in terms of TV ratings? The same teams would be playing if it wasn't for the automatic bid. I've always equated "March Madness" to the NCAA tournament itself.
    Not TV ratings, TV appearances during the season. No idea how to put a value on that, but I know the coaches want that national attention for themselves and their team.

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