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    Re: Immigration

    Originally Posted by sportkid
    I don't want to deny anyone, but what's wrong with due diligence?
    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    Not a thing. I'm just not sure everyone speaking out on this issue agrees with the first part of your statement above.
    I'm all for due diligence but the FBI and CIA have stated that they just can't accomplish this right now.
    So that rules that out ASAP!! No Syrian refugees into this country no matter what Obama says are my feelings at this time. And even when that time comes only those that are Christians should be allowed in. Not the 3% Christians and 97% muslims which Obama is allowing in now.

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    Re: Immigration

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...sis/?tid=ss_tw

    We can have prudential discussions and disagreements about how to maintain security. What we cannot do is to demagogue the issue.

    While this kind of complicated geopolitical situation requires prudence, it also requires virtue.
    Dr. Moore nailing it.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    And even when that time comes only those that are Christians should be allowed in. Not the 3% Christians and 97% muslims which Obama is allowing in now.
    War on religion?

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    Re: Immigration

    Originally Posted by sportkid
    I don't want to deny anyone, but what's wrong with due diligence?
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I'm all for due diligence but the FBI and CIA have stated that they just can't accomplish this right now.
    So that rules that out ASAP!! No Syrian refugees into this country no matter what Obama says are my feelings at this time. And even when that time comes only those that are Christians should be allowed in. Not the 3% Christians and 97% muslims which Obama is allowing in now.
    And I say this as Islam is a pure demonic cult, worshipping a false prophet and a totally different God vs. that written about in the Bible (both Old and New Testament). Islam teaches the killing of innocent blood and genocide of all people groups that will not convert to Islam or pay "fee". And it is no respecter of persons, different sexual leanings or even women and children of Islam as taught in their book. All must convert or be killed and I mean everyone on planet earth. Buy and read a Koran (Quran) and you will see for yourself. We can't risk allowing this most perverted thinking of Islam to enter the United States no matter what Obama, Hillary, IGore or Kerry think. It is a pure theocracy which liberals should absolutely hate.

    Even Dems are balking at Obama and Hillary's crazy rants and ideology.

    UPDATE: 47 House Dems 'Defy Obama', Vote to Halt...


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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Originally Posted by sportkid
    I don't want to deny anyone, but what's wrong with due diligence?
    And I say this as Islam is a pure demonic cult, worshipping a false prophet and a totally different God vs. that written about in the Bible (both Old and New Testament). Islam teaches the killing of innocent blood and genocide of all people groups that will not convert to Islam or pay "fee". And it is no respecter of persons, different sexual leanings or even women and children of Islam as taught in their book. All must convert or be killed and I mean everyone on planet earth. Buy and read a Koran (Quran) and you will see for yourself. We can't risk allowing this most perverted thinking of Islam to enter the United States no matter what Obama, Hillary, IGore or Kerry think. It is a pure theocracy which liberals should absolutely hate.

    Even Dems are balking at Obama and Hillary's crazy rants and ideology.

    UPDATE: 47 House Dems 'Defy Obama', Vote to Halt...

    Our overall problem. Straight off Drudge.

    Obama shielding more than 80% of illegals from deportation...




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    Re: Immigration

    The puppet master of Obama/Hillary/ Kerry and IGore pulling his strings. I present to you the evil champion and largest funder of the socialist Dem party George Soros.


    Attachment 13226Attachment 13227Attachment 13228


    Soros Group Launches Bid to Keep The Islamic Syrians Flowing...


    A group masquerading as conservative but
    backed by left-wing foundations including billionaire George Soros’s Foundation to Promote Open Society (FPOS) has launched an online advertising campaign in defense of bringing Syrian refugees to the United States.

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    Re: Immigration

    I don't want to jump in, because it is futile when people make up their minds and fear rules. However, here are the facts on how the program works now (in case anyone wants to know):

    How are Syrian refugees referred to the U.S.?
    The process begins with a referral from UNHCR. The U.N.’s refugee agency is responsible for registering some 15 million asylum seekers around the world, and providing aid and assistance until they are resettled abroad or (more likely) returned home once conditions ease. The registration process includes in-depth refugee interviews, home country reference checks and biological screening such as iris scans. Military combatants are weeded out.
    Among those who pass background checks, a small percentage are referred for overseas resettlement based on criteria designed to determine the most vulnerable cases. This group may include survivors of torture, victims of sexual violence, targets of political persecution, the medically needy, families with multiple children and a female head of household.
    What happens once a refugee is referred to the U.S.?
    Our government performs its own intensive screening, a process that includes consultation from nine different government agencies. They meet weekly to review a refugee’s case file and, if appropriate, determine where in the U.S. the individual should be placed. When choosing where to place a refugee, officials consider factors such as existing family in the U.S., employment possibilities and special factors like access to needed medical treatment.
    How do we know the refugees aren’t terrorists?
    Every refugee goes through an intensive vetting process, but the precautions are increased for Syrians. Multiple law enforcement, intelligence and security agencies perform “the most rigorous screening of any traveler to the U.S.,” says a senior administration official. Among the agencies involved are the State Department, the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center, the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. A DHS officer conducts in-person interviews with every applicant. Biometric information such as fingerprints are collected and matched against criminal databases. Biographical information such as past visa applications are scrutinized to ensure the applicant’s story coheres.
    What percentage of applicants “pass” the screening process?
    Just over 50%.
    How long does the whole process take?
    Eighteen to 24 months on average.
    How many have been resettled here?
    About 1,800 over the past year. They’ve been placed in dozens of states across the country, but most are in big states with large immigrant populations, such as California, Texas, Illinois and Michigan.
    Who are they?
    According to a senior administration official, roughly half the refugees admitted have been children. Around 25% are adults over 60. Only 2% of those admitted, the senior administration official said, have been single males of “combat age.”
    Has the system been successful so far?
    The security checks have a pretty good record. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the U.S. has admitted some 750,000 refugees. None have been arrested on domestic terrorism charges, though two—a pair of Iraqis in Kentucky—were charged with terrorist activities connected to aiding al-Qaeda.

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    Re: Immigration

    F--K the moooslims! I don't care about processes and track records of immigration, none of that crap. I do know that moooslims in general, even those who may not actively engage in terrorism, support and cheer for those that do. Ship all their sorry asses back to the desert.

    But....that's just my humble view of the matter .

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    Re: Immigration

    While I'm on a rant, let me add....

    we should also ship all these idiots in "Black Lives Matter" to ISIS held territory. Maybe they can convince those non-violent, oh so good folks, in ISIS that their lives matter. In fact, I think the whole obummer family should lead that diplomatic mission.

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    Re: Immigration

    Gary,

    Those are nice talking points, However, I just know that as the Bible says, "You will know them by their fruits" and Christians are suppose to be " as wise as a Fox". That applies to our Government (who runs it and how it works) and Islamic muslims in question (boy now there's a long history we don't want any part of). Therefore this proposed current Government experiment (can't trust a word they say nor a program they run), per the odds and pitiful past/historical record, isn't worth the risk, effort and money. We have our own huge issues and unemployed, and underfed poor in America per what we are all force fed. The only thing our Fed Gov should do is protect the American people and provide a good military to do just that. Obama has failed on both accounts as he refuses to protect our people and borders and has cut the legs out from under our military and it's processing of war andits funding .The only solution (and immediate) is to settle the Islamics in a country of their own culture in the mid-east and review this every few years. Tell the Saudi's they have to take them or we quit giving them $Billions and military protection. They still refuse to take even one along with other Muslim countries!!!! To heck with them!! And until the muslim countries step up, close our borders permanent to muslim and Islam!! Heck we've had Islamic attack after attack on our own American soil the last 7 years by those allowed from within (Fort Hood TX, Boston and the recent ones) that have been radicalized by Islamic Imams. We can't even stop these.

    Again, The only solution (and immediate) is to settle the Islamics in a country of their own culture in the mid-east and review this every few years. Tell the Saudi's they have to take them or we quit giving them $Billions and military protection. They still refuse to take even one along with other Muslim countries!!!! To heck with them!! And until the muslim countries step up, close our borders permanent to muslim and Islam!! But again our current leaders have failed us as they refuse to recognize and even name the true enemy (Obama, Hillary, Kerry, Soros and Col Sanders). Without this, it is truly hopeless until another ADM is in place in DC.
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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Gary,

    Those are nice talking points, However, I just know that as the Bible says, "You will know them by their fruits" and Christians are suppose to be " as wise as a Fox". That applies to our Government (who runs it and how it works) and Islamic muslims in question (boy now there's a long history we don't want any part of). Therefore this proposed current Government experiment (can't trust a word they say nor a program they run), per the odds and pitiful past/historical record, isn't worth the risk, effort and money. We have our own huge issues and unemployed, and underfed poor in America per what we are all force fed. The only thing our Fed Gov should do is protect the American people and provide a good military to do just that. Obama has failed on both accounts as he refuses to protect our people and borders and has cut the legs out from under our military and it's processing of war andits funding .The only solution (and immediate) is to settle the Islamics in a country of their own culture in the mid-east and review this every few years. Tell the Saudi's they have to take them or we quit giving them $Billions and military protection. They still refuse to take even one along with other Muslim countries!!!! To heck with them!! And until the muslim countries step up, close our borders permanent to muslim and Islam!! Heck we've had Islamic attack after attack on our own American soil the last 7 years by those allowed from within (Fort Hood TX, Boston and the recent ones) that have been radicalized by Islamic Imams. We can't even stop these.

    Again, The only solution (and immediate) is to settle the Islamics in a country of their own culture in the mid-east and review this every few years. Tell the Saudi's they have to take them or we quit giving them $Billions and military protection. They still refuse to take even one along with other Muslim countries!!!! To heck with them!! And until the muslim countries step up, close our borders permanent to muslim and Islam!! But again our current leaders have failed us as they refuse to recognize and even name the true enemy (Obama, Hillary, Kerry, Soros and Col Sanders). Without this, it is truly hopeless until another ADM is in place in DC.
    Add this and it's a time bomb just waiting to strike their target America and Israel homelands as well as western civilization as we know it.

    'Nearly impossible' to find jihadists among migrants, Greeks warn...

    Lesbos (Greece) (AFP) - As the hunt for jihadists widens after last week's Paris attacks, authorities in Greece warn it was virtually impossible to pick out dangerous extremists among arriving migrants, without prior intelligence.
    "If they are not already registered in the database, it's nearly impossible," says Dimitris Amountzias, police captain in charge of Moria, Greece's main registration camp on the island of Lesbos.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nearly-impossi...084048253.html

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    I don't want to jump in, because it is futile when people make up their minds and fear rules. However, here are the facts on how the program works now (in case anyone wants to know):

    How are Syrian refugees referred to the U.S.?
    The process begins with a referral from UNHCR. The U.N.’s refugee agency is responsible for registering some 15 million asylum seekers around the world, and providing aid and assistance until they are resettled abroad or (more likely) returned home once conditions ease. The registration process includes in-depth refugee interviews, home country reference checks and biological screening such as iris scans. Military combatants are weeded out.
    Among those who pass background checks, a small percentage are referred for overseas resettlement based on criteria designed to determine the most vulnerable cases. This group may include survivors of torture, victims of sexual violence, targets of political persecution, the medically needy, families with multiple children and a female head of household.
    What happens once a refugee is referred to the U.S.?
    Our government performs its own intensive screening, a process that includes consultation from nine different government agencies. They meet weekly to review a refugee’s case file and, if appropriate, determine where in the U.S. the individual should be placed. When choosing where to place a refugee, officials consider factors such as existing family in the U.S., employment possibilities and special factors like access to needed medical treatment.
    How do we know the refugees aren’t terrorists?
    Every refugee goes through an intensive vetting process, but the precautions are increased for Syrians. Multiple law enforcement, intelligence and security agencies perform “the most rigorous screening of any traveler to the U.S.,” says a senior administration official. Among the agencies involved are the State Department, the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center, the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. A DHS officer conducts in-person interviews with every applicant. Biometric information such as fingerprints are collected and matched against criminal databases. Biographical information such as past visa applications are scrutinized to ensure the applicant’s story coheres.
    What percentage of applicants “pass” the screening process?
    Just over 50%.
    How long does the whole process take?
    Eighteen to 24 months on average.
    How many have been resettled here?
    About 1,800 over the past year. They’ve been placed in dozens of states across the country, but most are in big states with large immigrant populations, such as California, Texas, Illinois and Michigan.
    Who are they?
    According to a senior administration official, roughly half the refugees admitted have been children. Around 25% are adults over 60. Only 2% of those admitted, the senior administration official said, have been single males of “combat age.”
    Has the system been successful so far?
    The security checks have a pretty good record. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the U.S. has admitted some 750,000 refugees. None have been arrested on domestic terrorism charges, though two—a pair of Iraqis in Kentucky—were charged with terrorist activities connected to aiding al-Qaeda.
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Gary,

    Those are nice talking points, However, I just know that as the Bible says, "You will know them by their fruits" and Christians are suppose to be " as wise as a Fox". That applies to our Government (who runs it and how it works) and Islamic muslims in question (boy now there's a long history we don't want any part of). Therefore this proposed current Government experiment (can't trust a word they say nor a program they run), per the odds and pitiful past/historical record, isn't worth the risk, effort and money. We have our own huge issues and unemployed, and underfed poor in America per what we are all force fed. The only thing our Fed Gov should do is protect the American people and provide a good military to do just that. Obama has failed on both accounts as he refuses to protect our people and borders and has cut the legs out from under our military and it's processing of war andits funding .The only solution (and immediate) is to settle the Islamics in a country of their own culture in the mid-east and review this every few years. Tell the Saudi's they have to take them or we quit giving them $Billions and military protection. They still refuse to take even one along with other Muslim countries!!!! To heck with them!! And until the muslim countries step up, close our borders permanent to muslim and Islam!! Heck we've had Islamic attack after attack on our own American soil the last 7 years by those allowed from within (Fort Hood TX, Boston and the recent ones) that have been radicalized by Islamic Imams. We can't even stop these.

    Again, The only solution (and immediate) is to settle the Islamics in a country of their own culture in the mid-east and review this every few years. Tell the Saudi's they have to take them or we quit giving them $Billions and military protection. They still refuse to take even one along with other Muslim countries!!!! To heck with them!! And until the muslim countries step up, close our borders permanent to muslim and Islam!! But again our current leaders have failed us as they refuse to recognize and even name the true enemy (Obama, Hillary, Kerry, Soros and Col Sanders). Without this, it is truly hopeless until another ADM is in place in DC.
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Add this and it's a time bomb just waiting to strike their target America and Israel homelands as well as western civilization as we know it.

    'Nearly impossible' to find jihadists among migrants, Greeks warn...

    Lesbos (Greece) (AFP) - As the hunt for jihadists widens after last week's Paris attacks, authorities in Greece warn it was virtually impossible to pick out dangerous extremists among arriving migrants, without prior intelligence.
    "If they are not already registered in the database, it's nearly impossible," says Dimitris Amountzias, police captain in charge of Moria, Greece's main registration camp on the island of Lesbos.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nearly-impossi...084048253.html
    Now these this morning. they are coming in here like the red ants, Killer Bees and roaches of old to America.

    OFFICIAL: 3 SYRIANS WITH FAKE IDS DETAINED IN ST. MAARTEN...

    POLL: Majority of Americans feel like strangers in own country...

    OBAMA VOWS MORE REFUGEES...

    Austin school needs Arabic tutors...
    ISIS THREAT ATLANTA...
    OFFICIAL: 3 SYRIANS WITH FAKE IDS DETAINED IN ST. MAARTEN...

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    5 More Syrians Stopped at TX Border...


    Five Syrians Stopped at Laredo International Bridge One

    Posted: Sat 11:12 PM, Nov 21, 2015



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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post


    5 More Syrians Stopped at TX Border...


    Five Syrians Stopped at Laredo International Bridge One

    Posted: Sat 11:12 PM, Nov 21, 2015



    Ya see TT, obummer's security measures are working. You have nothing to worry about.

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    Re: Immigration

    Sessions has this right.

    SESSIONS: America repeats Europe's mistakes on migration...


    SESSIONS: America repeats Europe's mistakes on migration...

    Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., is throwing cold water on President Obama’s plans to expand the number of Islamic refugees entering the U.S. from Syria, saying it’s a recipe for disaster similar to what’s happening in Europe.
    He urged Congress to use its only real power – the power of the purse – to stop a president who has often “run over Congress” to get his way.
    In a speech on the Senate floor Thursday night, Sessions said Obama has ignored
    72 documented cases of terrorist activity by suspected Muslim immigrants inside the United States since July of last year. Many of these terrorists came to the U.S. as refugees, a stark contrast to the “widows and orphans” meme put forth by the Obama administration and the myriad political and religious groups that support the resettlement business.
    Sessions said his office sent the list of terrorist plots, many of them foiled by the FBI before they could be carried out, to the administration more than four months ago and asked for the immigration histories of each suspect.
    Sen. Ted Cruz also co-signed the request sent to the Obama administration with an attached list of 72 individuals charged or convicted of terrorism.

    “We asked for the immigration histories of each one of these individuals,” Sessions said. “Isn’t that a good thing to know? Shouldn’t we as policy makers know how these terrorists got into the country? Well, stunningly, the administration just refused to respond. They think if maybe they ignore these requests then people won’t know and begin to question how things are being conducted. Congress should not acquiesce to the president’s refugee funding request when he refuses to even publicly disclose the immigration histories of these 72 terrorists, many of whom are connected to ISIS – al-Qaida and ISIS.”
    “The president persists in this plan even though his own officials, testifying before my [immigration] subcommittee, conceded there is no database in Syria with which to vet refugees. Moreover, as his officials concluded, there is no way to prevent refugees from radicalizing after their entrance to the U.S – just as has happened unfortunately with Somali refugees,” Sessions said.
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    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/obama-ref...zU54Yyl03db.99


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