you are speaking in favor of someone who advocates denying people entry to the country on the basis of their religion.Originally Posted by cscollis
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you are speaking in favor of someone who advocates denying people entry to the country on the basis of their religion.
Trump has David Duke urging people to support Trump for the some of the same reasons some of you are. That should be ALL you need to know how wrong you and Trump are.
Yes for Muslims, because it's common sense. We can't vet Muslims from the middle east so we shouldnt let the unvetted in.
I whole hearty agree with Trump on this. You can whine and bitch about what you disagree with Trump and I won't be able to change your mind. Once you use the racist card, I am done with you. You have shown you are illogical in your thinking and are relying solely on emotion in your thinking.
Here's the only tiny little problem with that...it's patently unconstitutional.
i never called him racist, but i wouldn't go very far to defend him against charges of racism.
nonetheless, i think it's pretty clear here who is reacting emotionally and who is being rational.
In a serious election, in a serious country, Trump shold get no more than 3% of the national vote. He has no clue of what he's doing... and on top of that Rubio just took his balls and Cruz exposed his support of hard core Democrats and his support of their agendas. He's a joke...and a vile, dumb joke.
Please site in the constitution where it's says we have to let everyone in even if you have no way of vetting them. You do realize that the usa didn't allow Germans and Japanese in during ww2. Are we at war with radical islam? You need to also realize from 1930 to 1965 immigration was paused with only a few people allowed in.
A poem posted in the Holocaust Museum states:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
It's now the Islamic radicals that are going for the kill on all people groups in the world.
They are playing the "master race and master religion card" and everyone else dies.
You can not let them in America anymore as in Islam it's acceptable to lie for the advancement of Islam and sharia law. Therefore you can't vet them and they must not be allowed in.
I hate Islam. I hope that's clear.
But a govt that can discriminate against someone for being Islamic is also powerful enough to discriminate against me for being a Reformed Christian.
Trump's proposal is a religious test and it violates the first amendment. That's a big deal. We don't do things that way.
i disagree, Islam and sharia are not compatible with a free society. You throw commen sense out the window by allowing unvented Muslims in the USA. Search constitutional immagration on Google and you will see it is not settled law.
The major problem with immigration is the lack of assimilation. Shira law as practiced by Islam is scary to western civilization and is equivalent to convert or die. Do you really think our founding fathers would welcome a religion that is not compatible with a free society.
It is nuanced, but it is settled. It's sort of why we did this a few hundred years ago. I'm not interested in letting Trump crap on the constitution.
Most of the people coming to our country now are running away from religious(Islam) persecution. Most of the original settlers of our country that came from Europe were running away from religious persecution from the Catholic Church. I recently watched the movie "Spotlight". You need to see it if you get a chance. The city of Boston is 53% Catholic and there are 1500 priests that are governed by one Cardinal. In 2002, the Boston Globe reported that 87 priests had sexually molested children and the Cardinal had moved them from one church to another to cover it up. Many of them were moved multiple times. Nobody had exposed this because of the influence and power the Catholic Church had in Boston and The Globe would not have investigated it if they had not just got a new editor who wasn't scared of the Catholic church. The Globe wrote several stories about this in 2002. At the end of 2002, the Cardinal got a big promotion to Rome. None of the priests were ever prosecuted. Is this what we call religious freedom? There were several thousand people whose lives were ruined because this was ignored by the Catholic church for many years. When there is criminal activity by a religion, it needs to be dealt with and criminals should be punished.
I would ban all Muslims from coming to this country. The FBI already says they do not have enough agents to watch the ones they consider dangerous that already live here. They have no rights under the constitution unless they're inside our borders. If you'd like to learn more about Islam and how it treats women and children, read Ayan Hirsi Ali's book, "Infidel". She made her way from Somalia to Germany and then on to The Netherlands at the age of 20 after being raised as a muslim and now lives in the United States and is very outspoken about this corrupt religion. Many muslims would love to kill her. They did kill her producer of a documentary on the evils of Islam in The Netherlands. There is nothing good about Islam. The teachings are heinous and evil and awful. These people are very barbaric and I'm not just talking about Isis. They mutilate young girls genitals and force them to marry as early as 12. Hirsi Ali's grandmother was the one that held her down while some barbarian took his knife to her. She was in a lot of pain for over a week and lost a lot of blood and was very sick. It was also very painful to urinate. There is no such thing as rape in Islam. The woman is always blamed no matter how bad she is beat up. They want every country to be ruled by Sharia law. It is definitely the biggest threat to our society and our freedom. There is nothing that I see that is going to change them, not even education.
You're exactly right. They have no rights under the constitution unless they're inside our borders. We can keep anybody out that we want to if we feel they're a threat to the country. There has been some banned from the country that went and fought with ISIS.
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