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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    If anyone has Donald Trump's ear, please tell him to bid out the construction of the Great Wall in several contracts to US non-union contractors. I don't care if he makes Mexico pay for it, but let our people do the work. Now that would create thousands of jobs.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ChipDog View Post
    If anyone has Donald Trump's ear, please tell him to bid out the construction of the Great Wall in several contracts to US non-union contractors. I don't care if he makes Mexico pay for it, but let our people do the work. Now that would create thousands of jobs.
    In all my reading and studying, I have yet to grasp why or how temporary jobs solve our employment problems.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    In all my reading and studying, I have yet to grasp why or how temporary jobs solve our employment problems.

    That's a strange view of capitalism, how it works, and how it feeds off itself. That's like saying working for TL James back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s was a part time job.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    In all my reading and studying, I have yet to grasp why or how temporary jobs solve our employment problems.
    The heavy & highway construction industry is actually more like other industries than most folks understand. It is true that if a contractor runs out of work his employee will not get a paycheck, just like many workers at Abercrombie & Fitch who started running low on customers who like the clothes they sell. Just like many employees of one of the hottest technology companies of the 60s, Polaroid, when their chief product lost popularity to some other new development, their employees starred loosing their jobs.

    We are a contractor and we have many employees in the field who have been with us (nonstop) for over 10 years. We actually had a man retire last year after 16 years of working his way up to management from laborer. I believe the reason for your opinion may be because construction workers often follow work by type or geography. Most of our work is currently in Texas and if any of our workers from Louisiana don't like living in a hotel and learn of work in Louisiana I understand that they may quit and go to work for a competitor to be closer to home - but he probobly will not miss a paycheck in the change. Only this morning an equipment operator that worked for us for about 8 years and then left about 4 months ago for a job near his home, called to say he was ready to come back as the close-by-job was about to be completed. I said great to have you back, and his last day at his old job is today and he'll resume work for us tomorrow. It may seem to the rest of us to be precarious, but those guys chose their path and many actually like it.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ChipDog View Post
    The heavy & highway construction industry is actually more like other industries than most folks understand. It is true that if a contractor runs out of work his employee will not get a paycheck, just like many workers at Abercrombie & Fitch who started running low on customers who like the clothes they sell. Just like many employees of one of the hottest technology companies of the 60s, Polaroid, when their chief product lost popularity to some other new development, their employees starred loosing their jobs.

    We are a contractor and we have many employees in the field who have been with us (nonstop) for over 10 years. We actually had a man retire last year after 16 years of working his way up to management from laborer. I believe the reason for your opinion may be because construction workers often follow work by type or geography. Most of our work is currently in Texas and if any of our workers from Louisiana don't like living in a hotel and learn of work in Louisiana I understand that they may quit and go to work for a competitor to be closer to home - but he probobly will not miss a paycheck in the change. Only this morning an equipment operator that worked for us for about 8 years and then left about 4 months ago for a job near his home, called to say he was ready to come back as the close-by-job was about to be completed. I said great to have you back, and his last day at his old job is today and he'll resume work for us tomorrow. It may seem to the rest of us to be precarious, but those guys chose their path and many actually like it.
    if i may back up jubru's point, while the construction industry as a whole may be fairly stable, growing that industry short-term, only for it to slump back to its current state, is not a long-term employment solution.

    of course we typically find a new big public project to take the place of the one that just finished, but if it is not facilitating commerce, then it is just busy work as far as the economy is concerned. "jobs" is never a good reason for the state to spend "the people's" money.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasbob View Post
    if i may back up jubru's point, while the construction industry as a whole may be fairly stable, growing that industry short-term, only for it to slump back to its current state, is not a long-term employment solution.

    of course we typically find a new big public project to take the place of the one that just finished, but if it is not facilitating commerce, then it is just busy work as far as the economy is concerned. "jobs" is never a good reason for the state to spend "the people's" money.
    If we are going to spend it, it should be spent on real infrastructure that capitalist business have control of. Contrast with wasteful Obamacare corruption where idiots who spend the money on things that only stimulate the underworld mafia Obama came from.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    If we are going to spend it, it should be spent on real infrastructure that capitalist business have control of. Contrast with wasteful Obamacare corruption where idiots who spend the money on things that only stimulate the underworld mafia Obama came from.
    or we could just say, "hmmm, do we really need to borrow money for that project? probably not. let's pay down our debt instead..."

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasbob View Post
    or we could just say, "hmmm, do we really need to borrow money for that project? probably not. let's pay down our debt instead..."
    Great concept, except it's not going to happen. We all know it. Conservatives are the only ones willing to give up their piece of the pie to "help the nation" when we know there are millions of sheeple waiting for their free meals from Outback, free phones, free internet, and free healthcare.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Worth pointing out over and over:

    Republicans and conservatives have not rioted at any of the opposition's or other's events.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    If creating jobs, what jobs do we the people of the US desire to be created that will do the most good for our country as a whole?

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ChipDog View Post
    If creating jobs, what jobs do we the people of the US desire to be created that will do the most good for our country as a whole?
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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Damn, I hope the Trump vs Sanders debate happens. Trump won't have to destroy crazy Bernie just push his major themes and on some of the issues they both agree on. Leaving Hillary out, would damage her beyond belief.

    Maybe Trump get get Bernie to finally be critical of Hillarys emails.

    You may not love Trump but he plays to win and seems to have great political sense.

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
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    The true pros reduce it to only four words:

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    Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    The true pros reduce it to only four words:

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