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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    There is no explanation needed. Holtz could've put Ryan in at many points in today's game. He doesn't OWE him a start because he named him the starter. Higgins screwed up and Smith took his spot. It happens ALL the time.
    I agree completely, but we both know that's not the way HCSH operates. I believe he will start Higgins in the crap game next week because of what he has said publicly since the DUI.

    Apparently there was never a point today when HCSH felt like JMar needed to be yanked. I thought he might do it after then interception, but then I saw him talking to J'Mar afterwards and knew he'd be back. I never really expected him to yank him today unless he REALLY messed up.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    J'Mar's head may need a week off to clear after that helmet to,helmet hit.
    Looked like it wasn't as much helmet-to-helmet as a hand to the face and finger in the eye as the helmet came off. Has there been any statement about the status of Smith's eye?

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I agree completely, but we both know that's not the way HCSH operates. I believe he will start Higgins in the crap game next week because of what he has said publicly since the DUI.

    Apparently there was never a point today when HCSH felt like JMar needed to be yanked. I thought he might do it after then interception, but then I saw him talking to J'Mar afterwards and knew he'd be back. I never really expected him to yank him today unless he REALLY messed up.
    You're 100% right on this issue.

    Higgins has earned the starting job, but he didn't earn the start today.

    Higgins will start next week and he should. It should comfort us to know we have a legitimate option behind him, and a potential three year starter next year. One game doesn't make a season's hero, and he still had plenty of issues to correct.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I agree completely, but we both know that's not the way HCSH operates. I believe he will start Higgins in the crap game next week because of what he has said publicly since the DUI.

    Apparently there was never a point today when HCSH felt like JMar needed to be yanked. I thought he might do it after then interception, but then I saw him talking to J'Mar afterwards and knew he'd be back. I never really expected him to yank him today unless he REALLY messed up.
    I don't think anyone saw things playing out this way.

    I certainly thought we'd see Higgins in the second UNLESS J'Mar did something special.

    A few holding calls and some field goals away from upsetting a bowl team from the SEC at their place in your first start...AS A FRESHMAN. Skip's never had a conundrum like this at Tech.

    The right course of action is plain. He should have the courage to take it. I think he just might.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Smith played better than I expected but he still didn't make a lot of throws that are routine in our offense. Nothing in the seams over the middle, nothing deep, 90% was to 2 receivers usually short with yards after catch. I think he will develop into a QB that can spread the ball around much like our last two. Evidently coming out of spring & camp Higgins was closer to being that guy - so he should start next game. If he proves to be the better all around option then we know we have a good #2 & a future possible star. I personally don't think Arkansas played very smart - never rolled up the coverage to take away to short passes thus never forcing Smith to throw it downfield. I think if Higgins doesn't produce Skip will reinsert Smith.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by LATechBanjo View Post
    You're 100% right on this issue.

    Higgins has earned the starting job, but he didn't earn the start today.

    Higgins will start next week and he should. It should comfort us to know we have a legitimate option behind him, and a potential three year starter next year. One game doesn't make a season's hero, and he still had plenty of issues to correct.
    I disagree. Usually you go with a veteran over a promising rookie bc the rookie can be a liability. Except for 1 pass Smith was anything but a liability. If all things are equal, I think you go with the young guy.

    Higgins has never shown me anything really. Decent short passing game, okay legs, no deep ball. Smith has a good short game, good legs, and an arm capable of the long ball. Stick with Smith he can be a 4 year starter and a superstar. He can be the future of the program. Don't cut his career a year short bc Higgins didn't transfer.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    I disagree. Usually you go with a veteran over a promising rookie bc the rookie can be a liability. Except for 1 pass Smith was anything but a liability. If all things are equal, I think you go with the young guy.

    Higgins has never shown me anything really. Decent short passing game, okay legs, no deep ball. Smith has a good short game, good legs, and an arm capable of the long ball. Stick with Smith he can be a 4 year starter and a superstar. He can be the future of the program. Don't cut his career a year short bc Higgins didn't transfer.
    I'd agree if we had a chance to see Higgins under the lights this year.

    Higgins has obviously instilled some confidence in his abilities upon the coaches, and we just haven't seen what they see.... yet.

    If he comes out and stinks it up, by all means hook him and start up the J'mar train.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    I'm o.k. with starting Higgins next week as long as Smith comes in after the third interception.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Higgins is in a lose/lose at this point. If he comes in and blows the doors off, we are all left to think, "what if he started at Arkansas?" If he comes in and stinks, he gets benched and we all wonder how crazy our coaches could be to think he has what it takes.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    I'm o.k. with starting Higgins next week as long as Smith comes in after the third interception.
    This.

    Besides the one int., j'mar was smart with his throws. They were where they needed to be or high out of the way so no one could catch it. Remember he had several balls thrown on the numbers that were just dropped. Henderson for a 1st down to MTC was a big one that was dropped.

    Higgins throws always miss low. People feet. His balls lack the zip of Smith's. I am sure Holtz will start him out of loyalty. I just at least he doesn't leave him in when things get out of hand.

    (Preemptive TWSS)

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    Re: QB Controversy

    The diverging opinions on this are fascinating. I'm gonna quit now (for tonight) because it seems like I'm running Ryan down. It really has nothing to do with him.

    A young guy came into a tough setting (probably the toughest we'll face) and performed far beyond everyone's expectations. In my book, he's earned the starting spot and should keep it until he loses it on the field.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by bleudog View Post
    Wasn't as much helmet-to-helmet as a hand to the face and finger in the eye as the Razorback thug was getting up. Has there been any statement about the status of Smith's eye?
    Yes!! Same thing I noticed and thought too. That was a cheap shot poke in the eye. Dirty hog.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    A young guy came into a tough setting (probably the toughest we'll face) and performed far beyond everyone's expectations. In my book, he's earned the starting spot and should keep it until he loses it on the field.
    Agreed.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by LATechBanjo View Post
    You're 100% right on this issue.

    Higgins has earned the starting job, but he didn't earn the start today.

    Higgins will start next week and he should. It should comfort us to know we have a legitimate option behind him, and a potential three year starter next year. One game doesn't make a season's hero, and he still had plenty of issues to correct.

    I tell my son I wish he didn't drink alcohol and especially don't drink and drive... you may kill or injure someone or yourself, and it's possible to totally ruin your career. Higgins may have proven my point by getting a DWI and allowing J'mar to get playing time. He may possibly have lost his starting job.

    I think Skip will start Higgins next game and I will support it for the same reasons others have said. Unfortunately, we didn't get the opportunity to see how Higgins would have done against Ark. If coach is correct that Higgins earned the spot (as several on this discussion board agreed Higgins did after watching scrimmages) and if Higgins would have played even better than J'mar, Higgins may well have cost us the game. Obviously we will never really know. I just hope that Skip pulls Higgins from the game if he's not playing well. At a minimum, IF we get a big lead against State I hope Skip get's J'mar back in the game... It will be interesting to see if J'mar can consistently play well.

    I glad Higgins didn't injure anyone while driving intoxicated and hope he's learned a life long lesson and will be better for it.

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    Re: QB Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Smith kept Higgins on the bench. No reason for Higgins to leave the bench until Smith screws up.
    I agree 100%! However I will support whichever QB HCSH starts and HCSH!

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