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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    I disagree HD, re Lemonis shutting up. Imo, Lemonis appears (in this article) to be the reasonable party willing to work out a deal. The board appears to be the hardball player.

    Camping World will just advertise via a different means in Shreveport and move on.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    All I took from the article was the guy explaining why he was moving on. He'd put a lot of time, money & effort into the community and he felt compelled to explain his side of why things hadn't worked out. Makes sense since they're putting a store in Shreveport and needs the community's support for it to succeed. From the article, he just stated the facts as he saw them and wanted to make it clear he tried to make a deal. He even said he'd have been willing to pay more in future years if the numbers improved.

    With luck this will put some pressure on the committee to make some changes & get their act together. Lemonis may have done the I-bowl a favor. If they don't change things up soon you have to wonder if we're looking at its last days.
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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by rabiddawg View Post
    I disagree HD, re Lemonis shutting up. Imo, Lemonis appears (in this article) to be the reasonable party willing to work out a deal. The board appears to be the hardball player.

    Camping World will just advertise via a different means in Shreveport and move on.
    You missed the point.

    ....So, if you owned a business, you wouldn't care if you pissed off a lot of local customers or potential customers by getting into an unnecessary squabble with a bowl game that you intended to withdraw your support from anyway? Okay.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Lots of free advertising here for Camping World/Lemonis. When he does the "big splash" promotion investment around his new store "creating new jobs in Shreveport, investing in Shreveport for the long-term,..." he will be a local hero at a fraction of the I-Bowl investment!

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    You missed the point.

    ....So, if you owned a business, you wouldn't care if you pissed off a lot of local customers or potential customers by getting into an unnecessary squabble with a bowl game that you intended to withdraw your support from anyway? Okay.
    Kinda like what the I-bowl committee has done for years with Louisiana Tech? Ironic isn't it.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    You missed the point.

    ....So, if you owned a business, you wouldn't care if you pissed off a lot of local customers or potential customers by getting into an unnecessary squabble with a bowl game that you intended to withdraw your support from anyway? Okay.
    I see what you're saying, but I think it's really a no-win for him. If he stays silent, the inbred mouth-breathers running the bowl will lie about what happened and spin it as him hanging out Shreveport to dry, not acting in good faith, etc. (a la our own debacle). That might actually hurt him more. He needs to move on, but I think it was important for him to state for the record that there was a good faith attempt made on his part.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    You missed the point.

    ....So, if you owned a business, you wouldn't care if you pissed off a lot of local customers or potential customers by getting into an unnecessary squabble with a bowl game that you intended to withdraw your support from anyway? Okay.
    Marcus Lemonis has a pretty good track record. He made an offer to the I-Bowl and they refused. He made a good business decision. The I-Bowl had no leverage but negotiated like they did.

    I love it, screw those bastards.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    You missed the point.

    ....So, if you owned a business, you wouldn't care if you pissed off a lot of local customers or potential customers by getting into an unnecessary squabble with a bowl game that you intended to withdraw your support from anyway? Okay.
    I sense the locals agree with him.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    Lots of free advertising here for Camping World/Lemonis. When he does the "big splash" promotion investment around his new store "creating new jobs in Shreveport, investing in Shreveport for the long-term,..." he will be a local hero at a fraction of the I-Bowl investment!
    HD, Cliff and I are fishing in the same pond.

    Lemonis' will spend and market his way into the hearts of his perspective customers in Shreveport.

    Additionally, I don't think Shreveport is in love with the Indy bowl or ts committee

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Still, nothing will change with that I-Bowl committee. They are stuck in a feed-back bubble, satisfied with their superior views.

    The only way to change them is to sit back and watch the bowl wither away and die. Then, there would be a good possibility to revive and rename it; with a better group running it.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by rabiddawg View Post
    HD, Cliff and I are fishing in the same pond.

    Lemonis' will spend and market his way into the hearts of his perspective customers in Shreveport.

    Additionally, I don't think Shreveport is in love with the Indy bowl or ts committee
    Shreveport has no love for anything other than LSU, and LSU couldn't care less about anything in Shreveport. The closest thing the city of Shreveport will ever have to a "home" team is Tech, but most people in Shreveport simply don't care anything about Tech. In fact, most of them think Tech should be closed and that state money shifted to LSUS.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    Shreveport has no love for anything other than LSU, and LSU couldn't care less about anything in Shreveport. The closest thing the city of Shreveport will ever have to a "home" team is Tech, but most people in Shreveport simply don't care anything about Tech. In fact, most of them think Tech should be closed and that state money shifted to LSUS.
    So, some scientific survey was conducted polling Shreveporters and the results were 50+% agreed Tech should be closed to support LSUS. Where can we find that survey with its results?

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    So, some scientific survey was conducted polling Shreveporters and the results were 50+% agreed Tech should be closed to support LSUS. Where can we find that survey with its results?
    Agreed. That's a ridiculous claim.

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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    I think it has gotten personal between him and one or two of the board members, who basically told him they are fine and don't NEED him or his money -
    Please...PLEASE...make this one of you Profit episodes, Marcus. If you don't have video of all of the conversations, hell, make it up. LOL!

    $550k is not the entire revenue stream, but its way more than what the IBowl has collected to help pay bills.
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    Re: Op/Ed: The Independence Bowl is in trouble

    To move UP the selection order of the $EC and ACC the I-Bowl will have to pay MORE than the $2.4M ($1.2M/team) payout. Otherwise they will keep getting 6-6 or worse teams that their fans won't travel to watch. The bowl needs MORE sponsorship money, not less.
    The $EC and ACC are just bleeding them dry until they can no longer pay, then they will "upgrade" to another bowl once the I-Bowl is dead. The committee members are not smart enough and have too much personal ego to see a better solution.

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