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    North Dakota leaving Big Sky for Summit League and Missouri Valley Football Conference. http://www.grandforksherald.com/spor...sky-conference

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    Re: Comprehensive Conference Realignment Thread

    I was just looking at a Wikipedia article about C-USA which listed all its members, past and present with their current affiliations. There are nine former members who make up the bulk of the American Conference. One went to the Big East for basketball (DePaul) and one is in the Big !2 (TCU). I really don't remember if TCU ever really joined C-USA before they went to the Mountain West. Of the original C-USA members who played football only Southern Miss is left. UAB is the only other original member (not in football until 1999).

    My point is every time we try to move up conference wise we always appear to be a day late and a dollar short. The best conference competition wise we have been in was probably our early years in the WAC. Boise, Hawaii and Fresno were all top twenty five teams at times with Hawaii going to the Sugar Bowl (got wiped by Georgia) and Boise going to the Fiesta twice (beat OK and TCU). The first few years we even had some nearer schools in Rice, Tulsa and SMU.

    The schools we would like to be playing do not want to have anything to do with us -- SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis etc. The only teams in present C-USA that I really care about playing are Southern Miss and Rice and maybe Marshall. I would substitute Arkansas State (the only Belch team) for ODU, UAB or either of the Florida schools in a minute.

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    If we want to be peers with these folks we need to up our endowments and have a ton of sellouts. More of former than latter.
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    Re: Comprehensive Conference Realignment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Houston Techsan View Post
    I was just looking at a Wikipedia article about C-USA which listed all its members, past and present with their current affiliations. There are nine former members who make up the bulk of the American Conference. One went to the Big East for basketball (DePaul) and one is in the Big !2 (TCU). I really don't remember if TCU ever really joined C-USA before they went to the Mountain West. Of the original C-USA members who played football only Southern Miss is left. UAB is the only other original member (not in football until 1999).

    My point is every time we try to move up conference wise we always appear to be a day late and a dollar short. The best conference competition wise we have been in was probably our early years in the WAC. Boise, Hawaii and Fresno were all top twenty five teams at times with Hawaii going to the Sugar Bowl (got wiped by Georgia) and Boise going to the Fiesta twice (beat OK and TCU). The first few years we even had some nearer schools in Rice, Tulsa and SMU.

    The schools we would like to be playing do not want to have anything to do with us -- SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis etc. The only teams in present C-USA that I really care about playing are Southern Miss and Rice and maybe Marshall. I would substitute Arkansas State (the only Belch team) for ODU, UAB or either of the Florida schools in a minute.
    That's not it at all. Just like us, those schools are seeking the best conference affiliation possible. It's nothing personal against Tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    That's not it at all. Just like us, those schools are seeking the best conference affiliation possible. It's nothing personal against Tech.
    I disagree regarding Memphis and Tulane. We are their peer in sports and and they HATE that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I disagree regarding Memphis and Tulane. We are their peer in sports and and they HATE that.
    Those were the two I really meant. Especially Tulane. SMU and Tulsa don't hate us, they just think they are sooooo much above us. I personally don't care about Memphis but Tulane could have really been a rivalry game because of the "hate".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    If we want to be peers with these folks we need to up our endowments and have a ton of sellouts. More of former than latter.
    Most of these programs do not have sellouts. We draw better in football that most. Your statement about endowments is VERY true.

    I think Tech, Southern Miss, and Rice have the best name recognition in CUSA. Next is UTEP, Marshall, and ODU. The FU's have NO name recognition and could be JUCO's in many people's eyes across the nation.

    CUSA is obsessed with market size, even if the school draws hardly anyone from that market. If they took a look around the P5 conferences, they would find many that are not in large markets, but have a great college town atmosphere.

    We do need to work harder at becoming as big of a name in N. Louisiana as we are nationally, though. People know our name, but N. Louisiana doesn't realize it. Our President is doing a great job with academics and athletics and I can see us gaining some momentum going forward. We need to aim higher than we do currently.

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    Re: Comprehensive Conference Realignment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    CUSA is obsessed with market size
    Market size doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Market size doesn't matter.
    I don't think she said that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Market size doesn't matter.
    It depends on how well it is used.

    UTSA and the FU's may have the size, but do not take advantage of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    It depends on how well it is used.

    UTSA and the FU's may have the size, but do not take advantage of it.
    Exactly.

    It's not so much about the size of the market, but how deeply your product can penetrate.

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    Re: Comprehensive Conference Realignment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    If we want to be peers with these folks we need to up our endowments and have a ton of sellouts. More of former than latter.
    Here's some endowment numbers I found online this morning dating from 2014 to now. Some, yes, can feel snobbish towards our institution:

    54.9 M -- Ark. State.
    58.9 M -- Middle Tennessee
    68 M -- Western Ky.
    73 M -- Louisiana Tech
    93.5 M -- Boise State
    94.6 -- Appalacian State
    106 M -- Marshall
    116.8 M -- USM
    132.1 M -- UTArlington
    133.9 M -- UTSA
    143.4 M -- UNTexas
    164.3 M -- Texas St.
    177 M -- FIU
    181 M -- UNC-Charlotte
    199 M -- Memphis
    213.4 M -- UTEP
    213.7 M -- Old Dominion
    217.3 M -- UTEP
    275 M - FAU
    425 M -- UAB
    466.6 M -- Miss. State
    593.9 M -- Ole Miss
    646.6 M -- Auburn
    788 M -- LSU
    789.7 M -- Houston
    948.6 M -- Arkansas
    957.5 M -- Tulsa
    1.1 B -- Tennessee
    1.171 B -- Tulane
    1.2 B -- Texas Tech
    1.2 B -- Alabama
    1.5 B -- TCU
    1.5 B -- SMU
    3.4 B -- Texas
    3.8 B -- Vanderbilt
    5.3 B -- Rice
    9.754 B -- aTm
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    Re: Comprehensive Conference Realignment Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I disagree regarding Memphis and Tulane. We are their peer in sports and and they HATE that.
    I wouldn't call it hate. Both would rather be in the P5, preferably the Big 12. Neither want to be associated with the schools in the American, for that matter. Again, it's not really hate.

    In fact, we would not be in CUSA today if it weren't for Tulane. We had their support in 2004 and again in 2012. Our problems with Memphis stem from one person - their former AD RC Johnson.

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