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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Trump's "team" does not want to win or be led. The Republicans are as corrupt as the Democrats. That's been obvious to most of us for years. He leads people who want to better their situation. The corrupt Washington establishment is on top with nowhere to go but down. They refuse to be led to a lower position. Even democrats are seeing the weakness of their own party's agenda now. They have no agenda other than pandering to those with no thinking skills who want more free stuff. Sadly those people and the Democrats believe they are entited to more free stuff. Trump haters with no dog in the establishment would rather give more stuff away than see him succeed.
    Surely he knew all this right? Why volunteer for the job? He didn't bill himself as anything but a leader. I'm sure you would admit that some of Trump's leading has been impossible: fix Obamacare, but keep pre-existing conditions coverage. Not to mention his impossible boarder wall promise.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Surely he knew all this right? Why volunteer for the job? He didn't bill himself as anything but a leader. I'm sure you would admit that some of Trump's leading has been impossible: fix Obamacare, but keep pre-existing conditions coverage. Not to mention his impossible boarder wall promise.

    What's the status on the Chinese and the bad deal we get from them?
    No he didn't "know it". None of us realized just how corrupt the GOP was. As obvious at it was, we hoped they would be forced to turn the right way, but with people like McCain leading the opposition he is limited.

    Outside of Rand Paul and one or two others, not a single member of congress was willing to adjust the pre-ex clause. He knew that. He had no way of knowing several members of the GOP were actually flaming liberals who were deeply entrenched in the Obamacare corruption.

    I believe he is allowing his military officials to lead on touchy foreign issues.

    I don't care for all the silly slip ups under the MSM microscope, but I do believe many of them have just been orchestrated distractions.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No he didn't "know it". None of us realized just how corrupt the GOP was. As obvious at it was, we hoped they would be forced to turn the right way, but with people like McCain leading the opposition he is limited.

    Outside of Rand Paul and one or two others, not a single member of congress was willing to adjust the pre-ex clause. He knew that. He had no way of knowing several members of the GOP were actually flaming liberals who were deeply entrenched in the Obamacare corruption.

    I believe he is allowing his military officials to lead on touchy foreign issues.

    I don't care for all the silly slip ups under the MSM microscope, but I do believe many of them have just been orchestrated distractions.
    Trump ran on keeping the pre-ex clause. How can you lead people somewhere that you aren't?
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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    Commission of a crime, or lack thereof, is not the only standard I use to judge a president.
    Obama didn't even have a standard nor Hillary as the bar was so low.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Trump ran on keeping the pre-ex clause. How can you lead people somewhere that you aren't?
    He ran on repeal...then repeal and replace. When asked about pre-ex, he like almost every other cowardly politician other than Paul and few caved to the ignorant masses. It was suicide for anybody to speak of doing away with the new government give-a-way.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    He ran on repeal...then repeal and replace. When asked about pre-ex, he like almost every other cowardly politician other than Paul and few caved to the ignorant masses. It was suicide for anybody to speak of doing away with the new government give-a-way.
    That's not leadership.
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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    That's not leadership.
    He is a leader of men. He has proven that through his business dealings. I say again, the Washington establishment is not made up of the type men who can be led away from corruption. Reagan got away with it to an extent, but we have not seen it since.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    He is a leader of men. He has proven that through his business dealings. I say again, the Washington establishment is not made up of the type men who can be led away from corruption. Reagan got away with it to an extent, but we have not seen it since.
    I have always said that his record as a private citizen (which I wouldn't call flawless as it pertains to leadership) is no indicator of his ability to be a good president. What we're seeing day in and day out affirms what I believed during the campaign.

    My fear is that, in the long run, the cause of conservatism will be set-back light years by Trump because he is destroying the most viable vehicle to deliver that conservatism to the country. When you look at what could be being accomplished if Trump had a modicum of self-discipline or if had ideological convictions, it's very frustrating. The democrats are the biggest dumpster fire they've been in my life time and the GOP decided to one-up them on the dumpster fire.
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    Re: President Trump

    Well...I'll say it again. If the economy is humming these next four years, and especially in the critical election year of 2020, Trump will get re-elected. Only by a much, much wider margin than last time. It will probably be a landslide. If the economy sucks, or is even sluggish, he'll lose his re-election bid. It really is that simple.

    So! to that end, the democraps and the Rhinos i.e. the "Washington establishment" will do whatever they can to kill economic growth. They don't want Trump to be successful. If he is, that establishes a new precedent of "outsiders" winning national elections. That renders BOTH major parties mostly irrelevant, or at least, takes away a lot of their political power.

    And for the more moronic amongst us (Goosey), who can't see this oh-so-obvious truism, just look at what the 'craps did to Bernie. Neither party wants to lose its grip on their power. And, Bernie supporters have become disillusioned with the 'craps. Most Bernie supporters despise the 'craps more than we conservatives do (or, as much). Morons like Goosey think ALL those left of center will flock to support the next 'crap nominee vs. Trump. Nope. Many (most?) will not. Goosey thinks Trump's base is eroding (it's not, it's actually growing) and since the left is already in the bank as anti-Trump, it's a slam dunk. Wrong! While they won't support Trump, they won't support the 'craps' nominee either.

    A good economy in 2020 assures Trump's re-election. Period.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    He is a leader of men. He has proven that through his business dealings. I say again, the Washington establishment is not made up of the type men who can be led away from corruption. Reagan got away with it to an extent, but we have not seen it since.
    He is not a leader. He is a marketer and self promoter. There is a huge difference.

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    Re: President Trump

    He is a non politician and it is not the new norm. It is the old norm coming back as it was in the early years of this country. This is a representative government and this government has not been representative in a long time due to the politicians who control all the power. We need Trump in this country in the worst way after Obama has purposely tried to destroy its economy and our base buy which we derive all our power. We as citizens of the US are in a very difficult situation. Our economy is recovering and our military is being rebuilt to face the gravest situation this country has ever faced. We owe our economic enemies a significant amount of money. Our military advantage has eroded to make us vulnerable from multiple fronts. Our younger generation believes that they should be catered to, are frightened when they are challenged, and think only of themselves which is exactly the opposite of the people who made this country strong. Political correctness is distracting our youth from the issues that need to be addressed for even survival. To top it off, political correctness is ingrained into our school system in order to maintain the illusion that "if I am nice to those who wish me harm, they will leave me along." I got news for them, once our leadership in maintaining order in this world is lost we will be rolled over with ease while we are looking at our smart phones. The laws of nature still apply even in the 21st century and there are people still hungry for power over others to include the "politicians" who run this country now. WE NEED TRUMP IN THE WORST WAY NOW!
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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Trump's "team" does not want to win or be led. The Republicans are as corrupt as the Democrats. That's been obvious to most of us for years. He leads people who want to better their situation. The corrupt Washington establishment is on top with nowhere to go but down. They refuse to be led to a lower position. Even democrats are seeing the weakness of their own party's agenda now. They have no agenda other than pandering to those with no thinking skills who want more free stuff. Sadly those people and the Democrats believe they are entited to more free stuff. Trump haters with no dog in the establishment would rather give more stuff away than see him succeed.
    AMEN. The entire DC establishment is corrupt to the bone. This corrupt system of government can not, and will not stand. It's beginning to crumble under the weight of its tyranny. Most Americans are fed up with the BS in Washington DC and the election of President Donald Trump was just the beginning of a revolution. The corrupt DC establishment knows this to be true. It knows that if Trump succeeds, they are finished. Hell, half of them will likely end up in prison. People like Guisslapp have simply been totally duped by this corrupt DC establishment. He still believes all the propaganda being spewed by the mainstream media. He's probably a decent guy, but he's been had. He hates Trump because the media hates Trump and told him to hate Trump as well. Thankfully, most Americans have the fake news media figured out and pay it little or no attention anymore.

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    Re: President Trump

    Trump is all style and no substance.

    You can bash on the D.C. Establishment all you want, but Trump is not the savior you are looking for.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Trump is all style and no substance.

    You can bash on the D.C. Establishment all you want, but Trump is not the savior you are looking for.
    The reality that many posters here fail to recognize is that DC is corrupt because of the HUGE amount of money that is involved in making political decisions. Nothing will change until that money is gone. Trump has none NOTHING to change the money flow. In fact, he embraces it with billionaires and lobbyists. Trump is a MONEY MAN.

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