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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    The point is not whether J'Mar has talent.
    It's at least part of the point as we consider whether or not to replace him with someone with less talent. Higgins had a long leash and he had been in the system much longer. I'm sure Skip is not even close to pulling the plug on J'Mar.

    I believe we'll see a difference in our games against like competition. Of course, I could be wrong. I predict he'll look much better against WKU and then there will be another thread like this after he struggles against USC.
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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    It's at least part of the point as we consider whether or not to replace him with someone with less talent. Higgins had a long leash and he had been in the system much longer. I'm sure Skip is not even close to pulling the plug on J'Mar.

    I believe we'll see a difference in our games against like competition. Of course, I could be wrong. I predict he'll look much better against WKU and then there will be another thread like this after he struggles against USC.
    Do feel like he played well against Northwestern? There were several passes that should have been INT's

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by longdawgview View Post
    Do feel like he played well against Northwestern? There were several passes that should have been INT's
    I saw positives and negatives. You press more when you trust your guy to beat his man. That's ok.

    You press more when you're frustrated and are needing to "make things happen". That's not as okay, but avoiding it comes with experience.

    I think he'll get there.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    After all the explanations and excuses for JMar's play it all boils down to the fact that if a QB cannot protect the football then he cannot be considered a good or quality QB. Once he takes care of his mistakes including fumbles and consistently throws the ball to areas where the ball is protected from tips for easy picks then I will consider him our QB for now and the future. Until then he has to earn it and deal with it just like all that preceded him. I refuse to grant him the "Rockstar" status that our student body and coach did after week 1 2016.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Just beat WKU! I have $50.00 on the line!

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    There was a play in the first or second quarter (I think 1st quarter) where Jmar was out of the box and chased down by MSU - he just slung the ball forward blindly while falling down on his ass. We got lucky that MSU defender didn't catch ball because it would be an easy pick 6.
    After the play, I knew it will be a lot of growing pain this year with Jmar.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    I agree with johnnylightnin. I still think J'Mar's got the goods at this point. I've seen bad, and he's not bad. In fact, I think he has the mind and talent to be good. Definitely has to improve ball security. I think he's sorting out what routes work with which specific players. There was alot of flukish stuff that happened in last night's game. Normally, mistakes aren't magnified to that degree. Seemed like every miscue was catastrophic. He's not that bad.
    I would really like to see Westin Elliot play again, and see if he's got the goods. Elliot looked really good the other night (compared to J'Mar) during mop up duty, and NONE OF YOU even seem to have noticed. Maybe because so many of you had already left the stadium?

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    I don't know if Elliot has the goods or not. But when he was QB'ing Sat night, I never felt like he was out of control and going to drop the ball at any second. To the contrary I thought Elliot was much more calm and in control of the offense. That's why I'd like to see him play again.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    I would really like to see Westin Elliot play again, and see if he's got the goods. Elliot looked really good the other night (compared to J'Mar) during mop up duty, and NONE OF YOU even seem to have noticed. Maybe because so many of you had already left the stadium?
    I thought he looked good but he was also playing MSU's 6th string and whatever random fans wanted to suit up and try their luck.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    I thought he looked good but he was also playing MSU's 6th string and whatever random fans wanted to suit up and try their luck.
    If you were paying attention, I know you saw Dan Mullens get real pissed at his defense on that last Tech drive, and REPLACE them with several of his starters --in one single wave-- when Tech moved the ball down to around the MSU 30 yd line. Mullens did NOT want Tech to score that last TD. That's why he pitched such a hissy fit when Tech scored. He ran out on the field and demanded the video review, etc...

    Make no mistake, Elliot threw that last TD pass against some of MSU's best talent. Not the whole drive, but the last 3 or 4 plays were against some of MSU's best.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    If you were paying attention, I know you saw Dan Mullens get real pissed at his defense on that last Tech drive, and REPLACE them with several of his starters --in one single wave-- when Tech moved the ball down to around the MSU 30 yd line. Mullens did NOT want Tech to score that last TD. That's why he pitched such a hissy fit when Tech scored. He ran out on the field and demanded the video review, etc...

    Make no mistake, Elliot threw that last TD pass against some of MSU's best talent. Not the whole drive, but the last 3 or 4 plays were against some of MSU's best.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    If you were paying attention, I know you saw Dan Mullens get real pissed at his defense on that last Tech drive, and REPLACE them with several of his starters --in one single wave-- when Tech moved the ball down to around the MSU 30 yd line. Mullens did NOT want Tech to score that last TD. That's why he pitched such a hissy fit when Tech scored. He ran out on the field and demanded the video review, etc...

    Make no mistake, Elliot threw that last TD pass against some of MSU's best talent. Not the whole drive, but the last 3 or 4 plays were against some of MSU's best.
    I noticed that on a replay of the game, Mullins seemed to be determined to curb stomp us for some reason, but he also looked like he is quite likely a prick.

    Elliott, not really sure what his talent level is at this level, but he certainly seemed to have a calming game manager effect on our offense.

    There are a lot of reasons why J'Mar is playing the way he is and as said earlier the list is too long to list and the blame lies on coaches, Talent level, experience, and J'Mar. One thing that really bothered me about J'Mar is that he really seems to be a head case to me, with all of the talent in the world that is not always fixable. I hope I am wrong about J'Mar and he gets his $h*t together and is a big contributor to this teams success, he has the physical attributes to do that, just a mind over matter thing right now.

    And yes, it is ALL about the QB, that's where it starts and where it ends, team is only as good as out QB.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    It won't continue. J'Mar will get better or Skip will bench him.

    Unless the Western Ky game is much better, the leash will be short by South Alabama.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Guy in front of me thought it was a delay of game on the last TD. Could be why he was mad I guess. I wasn't paying attention to the clock.

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    Re: J'Mar is NOT the Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    I would really like to see Westin Elliot play again, and see if he's got the goods. Elliot looked really good the other night (compared to J'Mar) during mop up duty, and NONE OF YOU even seem to have noticed. Maybe because so many of you had already left the stadium?
    Most popular guy on the team is the back up QB, just like last year.

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