J'Mar is NOT the Answer

[touchdown123]

Everybody needs to remember Colby Cameron at TAMU in 2010. Dude couldn't do much right. Numerous snaps over his head that he took responsibility for after the game. Threw two ints. Then Higgins against Tulane at home in 2013. 1 int, 1 fumble, guy didn't look like he had it at all. Even last year with SCST.

Both ended up being pretty good QBs. I think JMar can be better than both based on his limited time last season and watching his spring game performance.

He's got to get the fumbles fixed now. If he can do that, we will be okay this season at a minimum. Can be good if he improves otherwise which I think he can do. Seems like the outside hype is screwing with his head honestly.

[detltu]

Everybody needs to remember Colby Cameron at TAMU in 2010. Dude couldn't do much right. Numerous snaps over his head that he took responsibility for after the game. Threw two ints. Then Higgins against Tulane at home in 2013. 1 int, 1 fumble, guy didn't look like he had it at all. Even last year with SCST.

Both ended up being pretty good QBs. I think JMar can be better than both based on his limited time last season and watching his spring game performance.

He's got to get the fumbles fixed now. If he can do that, we will be okay this season at a minimum. Can be good if he improves otherwise which I think he can do. Seems like the outside hype is screwing with his head honestly.

Yep, way to early to jump ship. It's comical people are saying put Elliot in. That's exactly what happened last year, except JMar had a whole game and some mop up duty. JMar looked better last year because the people around him were playing at a higher level. He's gong to have to step up his game for sure, but by the end of the year, this thread will look as silly as all the others calling for the backup.

[DocMarvin362]

Skip says "we" are not ready for a spread offense. So....just telegraph your game plan to WKU, why don't ya. And, what's this "we" business? Maybe your QB isn't ready for a spread offense, Skip. But I think the WR Corps is...and "we" fans sure are! I think spreading 'em out, like 5 WRs at times, will open things up for a running QB. What do you think?

Every single time we went 5 wide, Moo St blitzed 6 and J'mar had to no time to read. Not sure if we had any hot routes on that. I'd go back and look at the video, but I really don't want to.

[dawg80]

Every single time we went 5 wide, Moo St blitzed 6 and J'mar had to no time to read. Not sure if we had any hot routes on that. I'd go back and look at the video, but I really don't want to.

That's on the coaches. If you know they are gonna blitz 6 then they are manned-up on your 5 WRs, and if you don't have a go-to "safety valve" as we used to call it designated for every play, then that is just lousy coaching. Also, I guarantee that every play one or two DLs engaged in a blitz will take themselves out of the play. Sometimes as many as three will because they choose to go around an OL and it turns out to be the wrong side. That means that a heady, running QB, has opportunities to step up and sometimes to take off and gain 5, 8 maybe more yards. Or, if the DBs react to quickly, the QB could find a WR popping wide open.

Let's not just look at the Moo State game. We know their D is probably the best we will face all year. But, we saw many of the same issues in the NSU game, and they are probably the worst team on our schedule.

[dawg80]

But, I failed to make my point. Skip says publically we have suspended the spread offense for the time being. So, you know WKU is all set to stack the box and stuff Craft and Scott all night long! Then what will our QB do when facing a bunch of 3rd and longs, when....well, looky at that, the defense WILL BLITZ 6! Oh my...we are right back where we were, only in this scenario, we will have just ONE chance each series to move the chains.

Frankly, I think Skip is just blowing smoke. No way he is this stupid.

[dawg80]

Oh, just had another thought. Maybe we'll introduce a Navy-type offense. I think Smith would excel in a scheme like that.

[frogdog]

They will not change the offense hey may modify the play calling but will not change scheme.

[HogDawg]

The QB has to read the defensive end. I haven't watched the tape. I don't know if J'Mar made all of the reads right, or if he made none of the reads right. However, it's not designed to "fool the defense." The defense has to make a decision, and it's the QB's job to make the right read and take advantage of that decision. The defense could scheme to make the QB give 100 percent of the time, and the QB could make the right read every single time and never carry the ball. I doubt that's what is happening, but it very well could be.

I know all that. Some of us actually played football, so we know how it's supposed to work. But if the defense actually "schemes" to make our QB give the ball 100 per cent of the time as you suggest --and its not working-- then YOU DON'T RUN THAT PLAY ANYMORE. HELLO!

[HogDawg]

Everybody needs to remember Colby Cameron at TAMU in 2010. Dude couldn't do much right. Numerous snaps over his head that he took responsibility for after the game. Threw two ints. Then Higgins against Tulane at home in 2013. 1 int, 1 fumble, guy didn't look like he had it at all. Even last year with SCST.

Both ended up being pretty good QBs. I think JMar can be better than both based on his limited time last season and watching his spring game performance.

He's got to get the fumbles fixed now. If he can do that, we will be okay this season at a minimum. Can be good if he improves otherwise which I think he can do. Seems like the outside hype is screwing with his head honestly.

Call me spoiled, but I just don't think we have to live thru another 2010 (5-7 record) or 2013 (4-8). We still have a chance to get it right.

[HogDawg]

Yep, way to early to jump ship. It's comical people are saying put Elliot in. That's exactly what happened last year, except JMar had a whole game and some mop up duty. JMar looked better last year because the people around him were playing at a higher level. He's gong to have to step up his game for sure, but by the end of the year, this thread will look as silly as all the others calling for the backup.

It's NOT comical to suggest that we give Elliot a deeper look. Elliot drove this team 90 yards, and threw a beautiful TD pass to finish the MSU game. What's really comical --or should I say sad-- is leaving a QB in far too long, long after he's BLOWN the game for his team by fumbling and turning the ball over repeatedly. If you are really hellbent on playing J'Mar Smith --regardless of his results-- then next time at least put Elliot (or someone else) in when we're still trailing by only 21 to 24 points, not by 43 points. It's too late then. That's stupid.

[HogDawg]

Every single time we went 5 wide, Moo St blitzed 6 and J'mar had to no time to read. Not sure if we had any hot routes on that. I'd go back and look at the video, but I really don't want to.

That leaves 5 MSU DB's covering 5 Tech WR's one-on-one. I like those odds. We should have been throwing quick slants, down and outs, screen passes, play action passes, etc.... as opposed to letting J'Mar sit back in the pocket holding the football too long like he's Peyton Manning or something.

[Houston Techsan]

That leaves 5 MSU DB's covering 5 Tech WR's one-on-one. I like those odds. We should have been throwing quick slants, down and outs, screen passes, play action passes, etc.... as opposed to letting J'Mar sit back in the pocket holding the football too long like he's Peyton Manning or something.

But wouldn't that be running the spread offense? Which I still think we should be doing.

[touchdown123]

Call me spoiled, but I just don't think we have to live thru another 2010 (5-7 record) or 2013 (4-8). We still have a chance to get it right.

I agree. My point is I think Smith has shown in the past he can be better than those guys were as freshman and sophomores. Now, JMar has been completely different this far, but I think he can recover. And if he does, we won't have to endure one of those seasons.

[LEEDAWG]

Maybe J'Mar can somehow channel some Matt Kubik and play some safe but efficient QB. Take what the defense gives you instead of trying to be a continuation of Higgins or Driskel. Easier said than done of course.

I also wish we had LB's capable of being burned by Marcus Gaines slanting over the middle, yet still able to catch him from behind 50 yards down field. Doubtful any LB's in CUSA would have caught him.

[SicemDawgz]

In my opinion, we need to utilize a bigger WR like McKnight as a true TE to help in pass pro, but one who can release and run a route too. 5 wide puts a lot of pressure on a struggling OL and QB.