Immigration

[Guisslapp]

Where was this clown when Obama's border disaster started and those pics of children in cages actually happened?

Singer John Legend slams Paul Ryan for Father's Day post amid immigration controversy

I don’t know that he saw those pictures either. I had to look it up because you keep referring to them. It seems as though you are referring to some photos showing kids in “cages” taken in 2014, which a few liberals mistakenly showed kids that were separated from their families by immigration enforcement under Trump.

The important difference there is that was not an Obama manufactured humanitarian crisis, while this one is manufactured by Trump. The kids in the 2014 photos were not separated from their families by US officials, rather they showed up in waves from Central America without their parents. The kids were held here until they could be transferred to HHS shelters before being connected with family or being put into foster care.

[dawg80]

You're a piece of work! Even when YOU ADMIT the photos are from 2014, under obummer, somehow it is still Trump's fault.

Again....and s-l-o-w-e-r this time, so maybe even you might understand it.

Trump has not manufactured any crisis. PERIOD! I've told you before to go to some popular music blog and peddle your BS. Maybe you'll find idiots there who might believe your nonsense.

We are way TOO NICE to these foreign invaders. Minefields, motion-detector machine guns on the border, and when we do capture these invaders they should be treated as POWs. Only after the world understands the USA is serious about protecting our borders, our sovereignty, will this crap cease.

Now, that said, I do believe in immigration....LEGAL immigration! We are a nation of immigrants, and all those who truly want to become an American, and assimilate into our culture and become a productive citizen, is welcomed here. Our legal immigration admittance system is convoluted. It has to be improved to make it easier for those who fit the bill to become US citizens. Our temporary work and student visas mostly work fairly well. The problem becomes when someone's visa expires and they disappear into the unknown and stay here, now illegally. That problem needs to be addressed, and can be.

I have ZERO tolerance for illegals. And no one who calls himself an American should have an ounce of tolerance. We are a nation of laws too. No one is above those laws...especially non-citizen foreign invaders.

This BS, about this all being Trump's fault, is just another weakazz attempt by the evil socialists to discredit our awesome Prez! It won't work. If anything, it'll drive more fence-sitters squarely into Trump's corner.

[Guisslapp]

When did I blame Trump for something that happened in 2014?

[TYLERTECHSAS]

When did I blame Trump for something that happened in 2014?

Any discussion of the harsh treatment of illegal alien's children with those pictures of them in cages, lines and or them supposedly being pulled away from parents in this thread actually came from the Obama era circa. 2014. It's a liberal media and Pelosi ploy.

[Guisslapp]

Any discussion of the harsh treatment of illegal alien's children with those pictures of them in cages, lines and or them supposedly being pulled away from parents in this thread actually came from the Obama era circa. 2014. It's a liberal media and Pelosi ploy.

These kids in the 2014 pictures weren’t separated from their parents like Trump’s policy requires - they entered the country without their parents.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

These kids in the 2014 pictures weren’t separated from their parents like Trump’s policy requires - they entered the country without their parents.

Even worse.

[Guisslapp]

Even worse.

I don’t see how it is worse than forcibly separating families, but, yeah, it is bad that we don’t have better accommodations. I think in some of the border enforcement “shelters” they are putting kids they take away from their families in the same sort of pens.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

I don’t see how it is worse than forcibly separating families, but, yeah, it is bad that we don’t have better accommodations. I think in some of the border enforcement “shelters” they are putting kids they take away from their families in the same sort of pens.

Nope. Pics you saw were from 2014. Not happening. And they are going to Foster Homes for the time being.

[johnnylightnin]

Obama’s policy is immaterial. Trump’s policy which is being pushed by a guy with more power than sense is indefensible. It’s STRICTLY political. He’s pushing Dems, but these kids are collateral damage. Of course Miller doesn’t understand or care about the real consequences, he’s scoring points with the breitbart crowd.

91% misdemeanors.

It’s indefensible.

[dawg80]

It's very defensible. They are criminal invaders. They are being treated better than they deserve.

[Guisslapp]

Nope. Pics you saw were from 2014. Not happening. And they are going to Foster Homes for the time being.

I didn’t see pics until you made me look for them. I just knew they were being separated. The fact that they are being taken away from their parents is the humanitarian issue.

[johnnylightnin]

It's very defensible. They are criminal invaders. They are being treated better than they deserve.

Misdemeanors...try again

And, we're talking about the kids, you gonna call them criminal invaders? Just trying to plumb the depths of the BS on this one.

[techman05]

So again, citizens who break the law do not need to have their kids taken into state custody. Equal treatment for all.

[johnnylightnin]

So again, citizens who break the law do not need to have their kids taken into state custody. Equal treatment for all.

I'm sorry, I must've missed this argument. Are you saying that, because they are not citizens, they NEED to have their kids taken away?

[techman05]

No, johnny. If we can’t separate illegal immigrants from their kids then why separate citizens from their kids after they break the law? They have both broken the law. Don’t treat illegals better than our own people.