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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I'm not gonna play the prooftext game on the internet, as I'm confident your concordance has some at least some references to "poor". Other keywords like "sojourner" and "compassion" may also be applicable to the current event.


    Proverbs is a good place to start, though.
    There are plenty of Scriptures about the poor and oppressed...including the ones about orphans and widows who were, as fate would have it, poor and oppressed. Jeremiah 22:3 and Isaiah 1:17 are pretty clear...and there are others.

    Galatians 3 also seems to have something to say about all this.

    Open borders? Nah, but compassion, grace, and care...without a doubt.
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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Open borders? Nah, but compassion, grace, and care...without a doubt.
    I'd submit that national "borders" weren't really a thing in Bible times. At least not in the same sense that we understand modern nation-state boundaries.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I'd submit that national "borders" weren't really a thing in Bible times. At least not in the same sense that we understand modern nation-state boundaries.
    That's certainly true. And we are not a theocracy so applying the Old Testament is a nuanced thing in this context. I think the heart of the admonitions is clear though.
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    Re: Immigration

    So the mob looks poor and oppressed to y'all? They look very well fed to me.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    So the mob looks poor and oppressed to y'all? They look very well fed to me.
    Most are fleeing violence rather than hunger, right?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Most are fleeing violence rather than hunger, right?
    If they came this far, they deserve our help. Honduras has an insane murder rate, and they were right to flee. I would assume that they are headed to the safest place on this continent since they aren't stopping in Mexico. So I think we should do everything we can to make sure they get to where they are headed. Canada.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post

    What this IS evidence of is how gullible Trump voters are. They will fall for anything he says.
    Solid evidence now that Venezuela is the source which means Iran and China are involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Most are fleeing violence rather than hunger, right?
    Yeah right. They've been running scared for months or years, but getting fatter and healthier by the day. Make sense.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Solid evidence now that Venezuela is the source which means Iran and China are involved.



    Yeah right. They've been running scared for months or years, but getting fatter and healthier by the day. Make sense.
    It is one of your favorite bogeymans and Pandilla 18 that they are fleeing from. Figured you would be more understanding.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    So the mob looks poor and oppressed to y'all? They look very well fed to me.
    And mainly men.

    America is the leader of the free and common sense world and Trump will probably now have to show the world how it's done by stopping these Soros and liberal paid mobs.

    DHS: GANG MEMBERS, MIDDLE EASTERNERS IN CARAVAN

    People 'with significant criminal histories' headed for U.S.

    Published: 23 hours ago
    The Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday it can confirm that gang members and males from the Middle East and Asia are in the caravan headed for the United States that began in Honduras.

    DHS spokesman Tyler Houlton said “there are individuals within the caravan who are gang members or have significant criminal histories.”


    “Citizens of countries outside Central America, including countries in the Middle East, Africa, South Asia, and elsewhere are currently traveling through Mexico toward the U.S.,” he said.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said Tuesday his team with the caravan found citizens from Asia and the Middle East, mostly young men, and indications the caravan was organized from the outside.


    The Judicial Watch team believes Americans are likely involved in the financing, Fitton said, and he wants President Trump to investigate.


    Investigative reporter Sara Carter, who is in Guatemala, found it’s mostly men crossing the Guatemalan border. She said they are giving a rehearsed answer: “This is not politics – this is about poverty.”

    “There were women and children but they were at the front of the caravan (smaller numbers). None would say who the organizers are but several said it was organized,” she tweeted Tuesday.
    Carter, noted the Gateway Pundit, met with the Guatemalan Minister of Defense on Tuesday.



    Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/evidence...zcxFRSggrUx.99

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    And mainly men.

    America is the leader of the free and common sense world and Trump will probably now have to show the world how it's done by stopping these Soros and liberal paid mobs.

    DHS: GANG MEMBERS, MIDDLE EASTERNERS IN CARAVAN

    People 'with significant criminal histories' headed for U.S.

    Published: 23 hours ago
    The Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday it can confirm that gang members and males from the Middle East and Asia are in the caravan headed for the United States that began in Honduras.

    DHS spokesman Tyler Houlton said “there are individuals within the caravan who are gang members or have significant criminal histories.”


    “Citizens of countries outside Central America, including countries in the Middle East, Africa, South Asia, and elsewhere are currently traveling through Mexico toward the U.S.,” he said.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said Tuesday his team with the caravan found citizens from Asia and the Middle East, mostly young men, and indications the caravan was organized from the outside.


    The Judicial Watch team believes Americans are likely involved in the financing, Fitton said, and he wants President Trump to investigate.


    Investigative reporter Sara Carter, who is in Guatemala, found it’s mostly men crossing the Guatemalan border. She said they are giving a rehearsed answer: “This is not politics – this is about poverty.”

    “There were women and children but they were at the front of the caravan (smaller numbers). None would say who the organizers are but several said it was organized,” she tweeted Tuesday.
    Carter, noted the Gateway Pundit, met with the Guatemalan Minister of Defense on Tuesday.



    Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/evidence...zcxFRSggrUx.99
    Katie Waldman, “clarified that the tweet about non-Central American migrants does refer to the caravan specifically.”

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Katie Waldman, “clarified that the tweet about non-Central American migrants does refer to the caravan specifically.”
    Btw, Trump was asked point blank about it by Acosta and Trump even admitted there was “no evidence” that there were Middle Easterners in the caravan.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Btw, Trump was asked point blank about it by Acosta and Trump even admitted there was “no evidence” that there were Middle Easterners in the caravan.
    Well you will not be surprised that Trump lied.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Well you will not be surprised that Trump lied.
    Every politician lies. Guido knows it.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    President Trump used his predecessor's own words against him when he quoted President Obama's forceful 2005 opposition to illegal immigration, but he could have cherry-picked an old quote from any number of top Democrats on the controversial subject.
    On Tuesday, Trump tweeted a 2005 video in which then Senator Obama made a statement against illegal immigration, accompanied by the comment "I agree with President Obama 100%".


    “We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States,” Obama said in the 31-second clip. “But those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.”
    He added: “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants into this country.”

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