President Trump

[johnnylightnin]

What are you talking about?

Are you saying sending troops to the border is defying the constitution?

I'm saying ending birthright citizenship via executive order is defying the constitution. You can say that's the same thing as "protecting our borders" until your blue in the face and it'll be just as false as the first time.

[PawDawg]

I'm saying ending birthright citizenship via executive order is defying the constitution. You can say that's the same thing as "protecting our borders" until your blue in the face and it'll be just as false as the first time.

That's not what this invasion is about. I know that Trump's jargon is upsetting to most who expect more "presidential speak" from him, but that's not gonna happen. He is talking crap to those saying, "its about the children" because that's what stirred emotions last time.

He is sending troops to prevent an invasion. I realize there are so many things to be upset about, but if you haven't noticed that's what Trump does. He can't be pinned down because he does not stand still long enough to be hammered to death by his haters.

[Guisslapp]

The talking points you have taken up recently, like those on most media outlets, are much more direct in blaming the recent events (bombs and PA tragedy) on hate speech by Trump and those who support him. Y'all aren't very subtle, but I understand that those desperate for a political win will say and do anything it times like these.

Maybe you missed the fact that we have racists that are killing people in this country as recently as last week. Pretty sure those people are a greater threat than this caravan.

But, yeah, the caravan and immigrant paranoia is a common theme in the latest attacks. Trump and the talking heads aren’t helping in that regard.

[Guisslapp]

That's not what this invasion is about. I know that Trump's jargon is upsetting to most who expect more "presidential speak" from him, but that's not gonna happen. He is talking crap to those saying, "its about the children" because that's what stirred emotions last time.

He is sending troops to prevent an invasion. I realize there are so many things to be upset about, but if you haven't noticed that's what Trump does. He can't be pinned down because he does not stand still long enough to be hammered to death by his haters.

Calling them “invaders” is a bit extreme.

[Guisslapp]

Pawdawg, you should watch more Shep Smith. Maybe he can talk you out of being paranoid.

https://thehill.com/media/413732-she...-one-is-coming

[PawDawg]

Calling them “invaders” is a bit extreme.

I suppose it is extreme if your are gullible enough to think they are actually seeking asylum. I don't think you are that gullible.

[techman05]

2 serious questions.....

1. If not an invader, what do you call someone you don’t know who comes into your home uninvited?

2. How many locations can one stop at to seek asylum between Panama and Laredo, TX?

[Guisslapp]

2 serious questions.....

1. If not an invader, what do you call someone you don’t know who comes into your home uninvited?

2. How many locations can one stop at to seek asylum between Panama and Laredo, TX?

1. A trespasser or solicitor.

2. That is not how asylum laws work.

[techman05]

A trespasser is someone who crosses my property without permission. A solicitor doesn’t make it over my threshold. Again, someone who comes inside your home is an invader. Coming inside our country uninvited is invading.

So, you can’t seek asylum from your own country anywhere else besides our southern border?

[techman05]

In addition, if they are trespassing then, they are crossing our country to get to Canada. If they are a solicitor, then they have to leave as soon as they know we aren’t buying what they are peddling.

[techman05]

And as far as I know trespassing is illegal so, still illegal.

[Guisslapp]

And as far as I know trespassing is illegal so, still illegal.

If they show up at a port of entry at the border and request asylum, though, that is not illegal.

Invaders sounds like an army, and the right wing’s use of that word is intended to provoke fear and hatred.

[Guisslapp]

A trespasser is someone who crosses my property without permission. A solicitor doesn’t make it over my threshold. Again, someone who comes inside your home is an invader. Coming inside our country uninvited is invading.

So, you can’t seek asylum from your own country anywhere else besides our southern border?

Trespass doesn’t mean that they are trying to go somewhere else other than your house. It can, but it also refers to someone that is on your property without permission.

[PawDawg]

If they show up at a port of entry at the border and request asylum, though, that is not illegal.

Invaders sounds like an army, and the right wing’s use of that word is intended to provoke fear and hatred.

Stop acting like you actually believe these thugs (75% grown men) are coming for anything other than to disrupt. Asylum is a word used to provoke fear and hatred in the weak minds of socialist democrats.

[johnnylightnin]

That's not what this invasion is about. I know that Trump's jargon is upsetting to most who expect more "presidential speak" from him, but that's not gonna happen. He is talking crap to those saying, "its about the children" because that's what stirred emotions last time.

He is sending troops to prevent an invasion. I realize there are so many things to be upset about, but if you haven't noticed that's what Trump does. He can't be pinned down because he does not stand still long enough to be hammered to death by his haters.

Executive orders that defy the constitution are more than jargon. Don’t hurt yourself twisting up to defend his Obamalike proposition.