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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal&Ken View Post
    Do you watch the Redskins? I have kept up with them for years because my husband is a fan- and I have to hear him every Sunday. They don't have a lot to work with, and haven't done anything to protect the QB. The jury is still out on whether or not he can coach at this point. A lot has to do with the owner and poor decisions regarding players they are making. They let Cousins go and were fine at QB until Alex Smith got hurt. They have been trying to fill the position with players no one is wanting. Haskins may be alright eventually, but is not ready right now for sure. They could certainly use Trent Williams this year on the line, but have gotten nothing for him. This is not a good organization.
    They are a total mess. The cowgirls are very lucky to be in the same division as Wash and the NYG.

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    Fingers can be pointed at more than one... i believe Holtz admittedly held him back, that doesn’t mean Rattay was a fantastic QB coach either. Who recruited and worked with the QBs? Rattay. So why wouldn’t he have some blame if Holtz’s reasoning involved not having confidence in the backup QBs?

    You don’t have to just be a a “Holtz hater” or a “Rattay hater.” All you can do is acknowledge what you see. J’Mar is doing better this year, it could be a result of one thing or it could be a result of both.
    So very, very true. And I sure don't hate either one of them. I want them both to excel and succeed beyond their wildest dreams!

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    Smith is getting better mostly because of experience on his end and the receivers end, not because of a change in QB coach. He has multiple weapons to throw to, so many that Hardy has barely even been mentioned this year. Plus the Oline play has been much better this year, and we’ve found more of a bruising RB in Henderson that has allowed us to open up the playbook on offense. In other words, the offense as a whole is playing much better, making Smith better at the same time. That’s not to take anything away from Smith and the year he’s having. He is definitely making better decisions and throws this year.
    And thats a big piece of the puzzle as well. He has a lot of notable receivers. Henderson is opening the game up and is a weapon on the ground and through the air on a few plays.

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    And thats a big piece of the puzzle as well. He has a lot of notable receivers. Henderson is opening the game up and is a weapon on the ground and through the air on a few plays.
    He has ALWAYS had great receivers. Ever wonder why we've had the same receiver coach for most of 7 years and nobody has ever even sniffed at hiring him away. fOh yeah, Rattay was receiver coach first. That must have been the problem. Couldn't be that he is Holtz boy and that he does EXACTLY what Holtz tells him to do. OC? OLine Coach...All three of them are bad retreads except for our receiver coach. Nobody wants him.

    Henderson didn't start the first 5 games.

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    We're all just guessing. It passes the time, but we're not 7-1 too often, so I try not to think about it too much. I'm just going to enjoy it while we got it.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    We're all just guessing. It passes the time, but we're not 7-1 too often, so I try not to think about it too much. I'm just going to enjoy it while we got it.
    I agree, but I'm not guessing. I'm using logic. He is running more. Many of the posters here have said Holtz said he was holding him back before this year. The implications that our former QB coach was the problem are ridiculous.

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I agree, but I'm not guessing. I'm using logic. He is running more. Many of the posters here have said Holtz said he was holding him back before this year. The implications that our former QB coach was the problem are ridiculous.
    I don’t understand all the Rattay hate. Higgins had an All American type year under him in 2016. Some give him credit for Smith underachieving and no credit for Higgins being very good. I think the truth more lies in the experience of both QBs at the time.

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I agree, but I'm not guessing. I'm using logic. He is running more. Many of the posters here have said Holtz said he was holding him back before this year. The implications that our former QB coach was the problem are ridiculous.
    J'Mar (2017 with no backups) - 9.2 rushing attempts per game, 29 yards rushing per game, 3.2 yds/att
    J'Mar (2019 with backups) - 7.4 rushing attempts per game, 23 yards rushing per game, 3.1 yds/att

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    J'Mar (2017 with no backups) - 9.2 rushing attempts per game, 29 yards rushing per game, 3.2 yds/att
    J'Mar (2019 with backups) - 7.4 rushing attempts per game, 23 yards rushing per game, 3.1 yds/att
    in 2017 he had Jack Abraham as backup

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    in 2017 he had Jack Abraham as backup
    Hahaha...well in spring practices before that season he did...but not in season. (I know you are joking but others might not)

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    J'Mar (2017 with no backups) - 9.2 rushing attempts per game, 29 yards rushing per game, 3.2 yds/att
    J'Mar (2019 with backups) - 7.4 rushing attempts per game, 23 yards rushing per game, 3.1 yds/att
    Looks like 2017 was a better year than I (and many others thought) while 2018 was every bit as bad as I thought.

    2017 - He was sacked 24 times in 13 games.
    2018 - He was sacked 45 times in 13 games.
    2019 - He has been sacked 16 times in 8 games.

    He is on pace to exceed his rushing numbers for 2017 through 8 games.

    Again, 2018 is the one that left such a bad taste...

    7 attempts per game for 12.23 yards for 12 yards per game, 1.7 yards per attempt

    The most productive thing about him being a real threat to run, is that it allows us to run the ball with our backs and frees up the pass (see the sacks). I think Boston Scott probably gave the stats a boost in 2017, but last year compared to this year will likely be as skewed as the QB numbers.

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    2017 - He was sacked 24 times in 13 games.
    2018 - He was sacked 45 times in 13 games.
    2019 - He has been sacked 16 times in 8 games.
    Don't forget that sacks count as negative rushing yards in the NCAA, which drove down his yards per attempt in 2018.

    And you pulled the sacks numbers that we had against opponents (although they both follow a similar trend).

    Our QB has been sacked:
    2017 - 25 times for -139 yards in 13 games.
    2018 - 33 times for -191 yards in 13 games. (take out one because Aaron Allen was one of those sacks for -2 yards)
    2019 - 15 times for -86 yards in 8 games. (take out one because Westin Elliott was one of those sacks for -3 yards)

    So if you take the sacks out his rushing stats you get:
    2017 - 95 att for 517 yds; 5.4 yds/att; 7.3 att/gm
    2018 - 58 att for 348 yds; 6.0 yds/att; 4.5 att/gm
    2019 - 45 att for 265 yds; 5.9 yds/att; 5.6 att/gm

    I don't know that those numbers scream a game changing ability to run in 2019 that would make defensive coordinators play us differently.

    If running is the impact, I'd submit it is the running backs, especially since they have the ball so much more on the ground.

    RB Rushing:
    2017 - 349 att for 1,876 yds; 5.4 yds/att
    2018 - 332 att for 1,548 yds; 4.7 yds/att
    2019 - 201 att for 1,233 yds; 6.1 yds/att

    Or, it could just be that J'Mar is throwing the ball better (which I tend to lean towards).

    Ok...I have a numbers headache...

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Shot that "the rock star is running more" theory all to pieces!

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    Don't forget that sacks count as negative rushing yards in the NCAA, which drove down his yards per attempt in 2018.

    And you pulled the sacks numbers that we had against opponents (although they both follow a similar trend).

    Our QB has been sacked:
    2017 - 25 times for -139 yards in 13 games.
    2018 - 33 times for -191 yards in 13 games. (take out one because Aaron Allen was one of those sacks for -2 yards)
    2019 - 15 times for -86 yards in 8 games. (take out one because Westin Elliott was one of those sacks for -3 yards)

    So if you take the sacks out his rushing stats you get:
    2017 - 95 att for 517 yds; 5.4 yds/att; 7.3 att/gm
    2018 - 58 att for 348 yds; 6.0 yds/att; 4.5 att/gm
    2019 - 45 att for 265 yds; 5.9 yds/att; 5.6 att/gm

    I don't know that those numbers scream a game changing ability to run in 2019 that would make defensive coordinators play us differently.

    If running is the impact, I'd submit it is the running backs, especially since they have the ball so much more on the ground.

    RB Rushing:
    2017 - 349 att for 1,876 yds; 5.4 yds/att
    2018 - 332 att for 1,548 yds; 4.7 yds/att
    2019 - 201 att for 1,233 yds; 6.1 yds/att

    Or, it could just be that J'Mar is throwing the ball better (which I tend to lean towards).

    Ok...I have a numbers headache...
    I think defenses have to play us better because our QB has the green light to pull the ball and run. In the past he ran a bootleg from time to time, but very rarely read the end of LB to keep the ball. This prevents the defense from stacking the box which allows our OLine and RBs to have more one on one blocks and holes to run through. Last year defenses had 9 on line more times that not.

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    Re: Smith Named LSWA Offensive Player of the Week - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Shot that "the rock star is running more" theory all to pieces!
    Not at all. 2017 appears to be close. 2018 is nowhere near as close. Neither year was an organized attempt to run the ball after pulling it from the RBs gut. That's what we've seen this year that has freed him, our OLine, and our RBs up.

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