Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
I have watched his closing statements. I find his pace odd, with some odd pauses and repetition. I'm not saying he is bad at all, but I was just surprised to hear you call him one of the best.

I feel like they are doing a fine job presenting what they have so far, but avoiding addressing the real arguments from the other side. So far they are riddled with logical fallacies and i don't think avoiding the genuine arguments are going to win anyone over. The one genuine argument I have personally seen addressed was the "even if it's all true does it warrant impeachment". I feel like they did a poor job arguing that point as well.
Which logical fallacy?

As far as why it warrants impeachment, I suspect that is what today will be mostly about. But we got a preview yesterday in closing:

“Why would Donald Trump believe a man like Rudy Giuliani over a man like Christopher Wray?" he asked, referring to the FBI director who acknowledges the reality that Russia, not Ukraine, attacked us in 2016.

“Because he wanted to, and because what Rudy was offering him was something that would help him personally. And what Christopher Wray was offering him was merely the truth. What Christopher Wray was offering him was merely the information he needed to protect this country and its elections. But that's not good enough—what's in it for him? What's in it for Donald Trump? This is why he must be removed.”

He cited the reports that Russia attempted to hack into the computer systems of Burisma, the Ukrainian energy firm at the center of the rat****ing, and drew a clear picture of the future.

“Let's say they got in. And let's say they start dumping documents to interfere in the next election. Let's say they start dumping some real things they have from Burisma, let's say they start dumping some fake things they didn't hack from Burisma, but they want you to believe they did. Let's say they start blatantly interfering in our election again to help Donald Trump. Can you have the least bit of confidence that Donald Trump will stand up to them and protect our national interest over his own personal interest? You know you can't, which makes him dangerous to this country. You know you can't. You know you can't count on him. None of us can.“