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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Does asymptomatic flu go into the flu counts? If not the flu mortality rate should also be 50% lower.
    Flu count is based on estimates and not positive tests. It would be much worse if they only counted confirmed cases (edit: basically double so much worse is an overstatement). They have a good understanding of the flu so the estimates are considered highly accurate. I think they consider the number of flu cases to be roughly double the number that actually go to the doctor.

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    Here is the CDC info from last year.

    an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza (Table 1).

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    Flu count is based on estimates and not positive tests. It would be much worse if they only counted confirmed cases (edit: basically double so much worse is an overstatement). They have a good understanding of the flu so the estimates are considered highly accurate. I think they consider the number of flu cases to be roughly double the number that actually go to the doctor.

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    Here is the CDC info from last year.
    Still kind of vague (“getting sick”) - wouldn’t seem to include those that don’t have flu symptoms, which is 50% of the cases.

    Still, by now we all know the kicker with Covid 19 is its penchant for causing a respiratory infection requiring a ventilator, which drives the actual mortality 10 times greater than its mortality rate if you don’t exceed your treatment capacity.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    In other words, Fauci can’t persuade Trump to do what he thinks he should do if the media keeps pointing out where Trump and he differ. Putting them at odds, neuters Fauci because Trump can’t handle someone contradicting him.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Still kind of vague (“getting sick”) - wouldn’t seem to include those that don’t have flu symptoms, which is 50% of the cases.

    Still, by now we all know the kicker with Covid 19 is its penchant for causing a respiratory infection requiring a ventilator, which drives the actual mortality 10 times greater than its mortality rate if you don’t exceed your treatment capacity.
    Where is your 50% number coming from for the flu. I think the safe assumption is that the numbers the CDC uses to estimate total cases includes those who are asymptomatic but still spread the disease. I think a large part of the projection is based on how fast it spreads which would include some who are asymptomatic. The number certainly includes those who have symptoms so minor that they don't feel the need to go to the doctor. Would those be included in the 50% of asymptomatic cases? They have a pretty good handle on the flu numbers unlike this.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    Where is your 50% number coming from for the flu. I think the safe assumption is that the numbers the CDC uses to estimate total cases includes those who are asymptomatic but still spread the disease. I think a large part of the projection is based on how fast it spreads which would include some who are asymptomatic. The number certainly includes those who have symptoms so minor that they don't feel the need to go to the doctor. Would those be included in the 50% of asymptomatic cases? They have a pretty good handle on the flu numbers unlike this.
    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.o...rt_103105.html

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Democratic Congressman James Clyburn on Coronavirus Bill: ‘This Is a Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’....

    Again these people don't give a damn about America...


    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...it-our-vision/

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Democratic Congressman James Clyburn on Coronavirus Bill: ‘This Is a Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’....

    Again these people don't give a damn about America...


    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...it-our-vision/
    Trust in Nancy. She will have the House in line if the Senate will pass the damn bill already.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Update on now.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Trust in Nancy. She will have the House in line if the Senate will pass the damn bill already.
    Well duh of course she will!!!

    But your "Trust in Nancy"?????? Never

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Probably. But if true, please find and post them from a good source for us all to see and read. Thanks!
    We both know that any source or story that could potentially be construed as even obliquely criticizing Republicans would be swiftly and categorically dismissed as anti-American spin and bias from the worldwide liberal media conspiracy.

    So I dont care to play that game.

    But it's my understanding that both parties are slipping poison pills into the cocktail. And I'll leave it at that.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Trust in Nancy. She will have the House in line if the Senate will pass the damn bill already.

    That's like me telling you to Trust in Trump... I"m sure you would put your trust in him right?

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    That's like me telling you to Trust in Trump... I"m sure you would put your trust in him right?
    You can trust in Trump to not avoid in accountability and to require people that work for him to praise him and never contradict him.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    I am discouraged that Trump is pretty much negotiating directly with the dems on the stimulus bill.

    If there is one nickel of dem pork, or dem reductions to my liberties, in the bill they try to pass....Trump is history in my book.

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