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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    6-3 Baby!!!!!!!
    9-6 coming your way.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Saw some numbers based on the exit polls of the 2016 POTUS election where as many as 15% of voters in some battleground states said they voted for Trump because of one issue, they wanted him, not Killary, to nominate the next SC justices. For many voters it often comes down to ONE ISSUE. These same voters apparently told the pollster they would not have voted for Trump otherwise. So...if Trump replaces Ruthie prior to November 3rd, these key voters might say "thanks Mr. President for filling the SC with someone we like, and now it's time to get rid of you." Just saying...
    Mitch is running the show now. I think he knows confirming before the election likely hurts Trump and a handful of vulnerable senators. I think he’s ok with that.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Mitch is running the show now. I think he knows confirming before the election likely hurts Trump and a handful of vulnerable senators. I think he’s ok with that.
    Yup. He is playing into the script of a 9-6. Will see if he pushes the confirmation until after the election. Even a nomination before the election could hurt Trump.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Mitch is running the show now. I think he knows confirming before the election likely hurts Trump and a handful of vulnerable senators. I think he’s ok with that.
    LOL.

    Doesn’t hurt Trump with anybody that understands the Biden/Harris platform.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    9-6 coming your way.
    Let us all hope it doesn't come to that. Yep, regaining control of the Senate the Dems could up the SC to a 9-6 split. And that would last until the GOP regains the Senate...and off we go running!

    Besides, if we were to get a true conservative justice to replace Ruthie it would make it only 5-4, at best, to the good. Roberts has been anything but a conservative justice.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    LOL.

    Doesn’t hurt Trump with anybody that understands the Biden/Harris platform.
    It'll be hard to tell because Trump was at a historic deficit prior to the SCOTUS news.
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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Saw some numbers based on the exit polls of the 2016 POTUS election where as many as 15% of voters in some battleground states said they voted for Trump because of one issue, they wanted him, not Killary, to nominate the next SC justices. For many voters it often comes down to ONE ISSUE. These same voters apparently told the pollster they would not have voted for Trump otherwise. So...if Trump replaces Ruthie prior to November 3rd, these key voters might say "thanks Mr. President for filling the SC with someone we like, and now it's time to get rid of you." Just saying...
    In reality, overturning Roe v Wade returns control of that issue to the states. Louisiana is the most pro-life state in the union and eliminating abortion here is going to reduce it by small numbers here. New York, California etc. are still going to have legal abortion. The holy grail of SC justices for the pro-life cause serves the Republican party, predominantly, to keep one issue voters in line especially if nothing is done about it. Some pro-life voters are weighing the reality of my first statement against what they perceive as the character issues with Trump. Remember, single issue voters are conscience voters. They tend to have moral standards when it comes to behavior. Evangelical voters had the biggest switch from "character matters" to "character doesn't matter" in polling in the last 4-6 years. That is a tenuous line to balance because the cognitive dissonance is loud.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Roe v. Wade is just one of the hot-button items that the SC can affect. There is also all the 1st and 2nd Amendments issues to consider. Voters who care about the Bill of Rights are likely to want a conservative SC to uphold those rights.

    In my post, I did not mention Roe v. Wade, just that a significant % of voters in battleground states cited SC appointees as a, or THE, reason they voted for Trump in 2016. Now, maybe Roe was that key issue for those voters, but it was not expressly stated. I assumed, from the language of the report...and maybe I just projected my own view into that assumption...that it was a "we want a conservative justice(s)" rather than "we want someone who will overturn Roe v. Wade."

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    But, weunice, you are correct, of course, about overturning Roe simply returning the issue to the 50 separate states. It's what Ruthie was worried about, since she was such a strong advocate of murdering babies. She stated many times how she would have preferred baby-murder to have been made law at the state level and for the SC to NEVER have been asked to make a ruling on it. She also famously said, which she may or may not have been right about, that in the early 1970's there was ample momentum on the side of baby-murder that many, most, maybe all states would have eventually passed a law allowing it, at least to some degree. But, the lawsuit which eventually beget Roe v. Wade took it out of the hands of all those separate state movements and the local (state) momentum slipped away.

    Ruthie was 100% correct though when she warned those celebrating baby-murder as "the law of the land" to be ever mindful that Roe could very easily, and quickly, be overturned by the same SC they leaned on.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Do you want a "conservative" or an "originalist"? It seems many more on the right are NOW wanting a judge to advocate for conservative causes as opposed to being a strict constitutionalist. Seems like that's judicial activism. Now, I can understand the argument that you need activism on the right to combat activism on the left...I don't agree, but I understand.

    I think ABC's answers when asked about her religion have been very good with regard to how she approaches her job as a judge. I think the left is playing a dangerous game if they go hard after her catholicism...you know where a lot of catholics live? The midwest.
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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Yep Biden is a crook and a scumbag.

    Breaking:

    Senate Report Says Joe Biden Allowed Family to Enrich Themselves Abroad While He Was VP

    A new Senate report released Wednesday concludes that former Vice President Joe Biden allowed Hunter Biden and other members of his family to enrich themselves through links with foreign companies and governments while he was in office.

    The report notes that the Obama administration was aware of, but did nothing about the conflict of interest that was created when Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was appointed to the board of Burisma, a corrupt Ukrainian fossil fuel company.

    Much more:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ile-he-was-vp/

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Yep Biden is a crook and a scumbag.

    Breaking:

    Senate Report Says Joe Biden Allowed Family to Enrich Themselves Abroad While He Was VP

    A new Senate report released Wednesday concludes that former Vice President Joe Biden allowed Hunter Biden and other members of his family to enrich themselves through links with foreign companies and governments while he was in office.

    The report notes that the Obama administration was aware of, but did nothing about the conflict of interest that was created when Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was appointed to the board of Burisma, a corrupt Ukrainian fossil fuel company.

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ile-he-was-vp/
    Lol. Cause he has the ability to stop Hunter, a grown ass adult, from doing what he chooses.

    What did the report say about POTUS’s children that are enriching themselves with foreign companies and governments?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Yep Biden is a crook and a scumbag.

    Breaking:

    Senate Report Says Joe Biden Allowed Family to Enrich Themselves Abroad While He Was VP

    A new Senate report released Wednesday concludes that former Vice President Joe Biden allowed Hunter Biden and other members of his family to enrich themselves through links with foreign companies and governments while he was in office.

    The report notes that the Obama administration was aware of, but did nothing about the conflict of interest that was created when Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was appointed to the board of Burisma, a corrupt Ukrainian fossil fuel company.

    But the report goes further than what was revealed during the impeachment inquiry last year. It presents email evidence that former Secretary of State John Kerry, whose stepson Chris Heinz was one of Hunter Biden’s business partners, was also aware of the conflicts of interest. It adds that “Hunter Biden, his family, and [business partner Devon] Archer received millions of dollars from foreign nationals with questionable backgrounds.” It notes that Hunter Biden went on a “$100,000 global spending spree with James Biden and Sara Biden” after receiving money from a Chinese investor. And it adds that Hunter Biden appeared to have paid women linked to an “Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring.”

    It also notes: “The records acquired by the Committees show consistent, significant and extensive financial connections among and between Hunter Biden, James Biden, Sara Biden, Devon Archer, and Chinese nationals connected to the Communist regime and [People’s Liberation Army] as well as other foreign nationals with questionable backgrounds.”

    The report, presented by by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) of the Senate Committee on Finance, was launched in August 2019 — prior to the impeachment controversy, and as the result of the “Henniges transaction,” in which a company tied to the Chinese state had bought an American company that makes “anti-vibration technologies with military applications.” One of the companies in the transaction was Bohai Harvest RST (BHR), a Chinese-funded investment company in which Hunter Biden owns a stake.

    Much more:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ile-he-was-vp/
    So you libs like slimy Biden with his kickbacks from Russia and China huh? I guess Obama let Biden family crap go scott free because he was in tight with Iran, as in $4 Billion tight.

    More

    Hunter Biden’s Firm Received $3.5 Million from One of Russia’s Most ‘Powerful’ Oligarchs

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ful-oligarchs/


    Senate Committee: Hunter Biden Paid Women Linked to ‘Prostitution or Human Trafficking’


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...n-trafficking/

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Lol. Cause he has the ability to stop Hunter, a grown ass adult, from doing what he chooses.
    No, because he enabled Hunter to be in the position to do that by his connections. If Hunter wants to 'knock-up' a stripper, I don't blame Joe for that other than for bad parenting. But if you introduce your son to these people and this is the result then Joe definitely has some of the blame.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue View Post
    No, because he enabled Hunter to be in the position to do that by his connections. If Hunter wants to 'knock-up' a stripper, I don't blame Joe for that other than for bad parenting. But if you introduce your son to these people and this is the result then Joe definitely has some of the blame.
    The report cleared Joe. No surprise there. The fact that Hunter traded off on his dad’s name is not something in Joe’s control.

    Which introduction do you find problematic?

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