Presidential Election 2020

[dawg80]

Goosey...it is running down your legs now and covering your shoes. Oh, I mean the shit that is streaming from your ears as you are so FULL OF SHIT you are over-flowing.

I know you are lost in your delusional world, so for everyone else, I will remind you that it has been Killary for FOUR years who continues to claim the 2016 election was stolen from her, and it has been the Dems for FOUR years declaring Trump an illegitimate president and it was they who concocted the whole fake "Russia collusion" story and continued to hammer how Russia has and does interfere in our elections. It is the Dems WHO DO CHEAT!!! that is not even in dispute, and yet Trump gets blamed for casting doubts on the election process? LOL.

Yeah, and the ULM Chickenhawks are in line for a NY6 bowl game!!! I mean, if you're gonna live in a delusional world, run with it!

[Guisslapp]

Trump has been a self-dealing cheat his whole life. That hasn’t changed nor will it ever.

He didn’t commit election fraud in 2016 and no one said he did. What he did, and continues to do, is use the power of the presidency (an office that represents the people and not the person) to enrich himself personally, trading geopolitical currency he holds in trust for Americans for his personal political gain over political opponents.

This abuse of power is a perversion of what democracy stands for, and this stain doesn’t wash off easily,

This is why Trump poses an existential threat to America and he continues to prove it every day.

76 million Americans (and growing) saw it for what it was.

[dawg80]

No one said he did!???? OMG! Only Killary, the Dems, the lamestream media...

Please tell us...so we can all enjoy a chuckle...exactly how Trump uses the office of POTUS to enrich himself personally, and please regale us with how he abuses power. It is Joe Biden who peddled influence as a VP...just imagine what he and his clan will do if he is P.

BTW, speaking of enriching, Trump has been offered $100 million for a book deal after he is no longer president. I think he should take it, when that time comes, and he should reveal everything about the swamp and then use that money to support opponents of his political enemies.

[Guisslapp]

No one said he did!???? OMG! Only Killary, the Dems, the lamestream media...

Please tell us...so we can all enjoy a chuckle...exactly how Trump uses the office of POTUS to enrich himself personally, and please regale us with how he abuses power. It is Joe Biden who peddled influence as a VP...just imagine what he and his clan will do if he is P.

BTW, speaking of enriching, Trump has been offered $100 million for a book deal after he is no longer president. I think he should take it, when that time comes, and he should reveal everything about the swamp and then use that money to support opponents of his political enemies.

Russia in 2016. Ukraine in 2019. DOJ under Barr. Personal favors over America’s business. Business executives that work for shareholders understand how fiduciary duty works. Trump knows zero about ethics and has sought to avoid learning about it.

[dawg80]

Russia in 2016. Ukraine in 2019. DOJ under Barr. Personal favors over America’s business. Business executives that work for shareholders understand how fiduciary duty works. Trump knows zero about ethics and has sought to avoid learning about it.

[johnnylightnin]

why is it so important for them to convince me that joe biden is already the president-elect?

I don't know that a Youtube denial and a signed affidavit are comparable. I also don't think that it's that important for them to convince YOU. I'm more concerned about Trump loyalists and right wing fringe groups that buy these baseless claims that the election was stolen. The margins are no where near as thin as they were in FL in 2000.

Are you seriously not even a little concerned about the firings that are taking place in the administration? About the DOJ (which has shown itself to operate in very partisan ways) being given the go ahead to open probes before the results are certified? About Pompeo (at best) joking about the smooth transition to the second Trump term?

In general, I say let him flail about...despite the Morning Consult poll, I think most Americans see this for what it is. But it is certainly concerning and any "both sides" position on this is disingenuous.

[Guisslapp]

And maybe that is the point that gets lost on small business owners.

In the case of small businesses the personal interests of the CEO/manager is often the same as the business itself because the owner is usually the manager.

That isn’t true in large companies. The personal interests of the CEO are not the same as the business. The CEO makes decision on what is in the best interest of the business over what is in his own self interest. Self dealing is a violation of duty and undermines trust with shareholders that is a cornerstone of the value of the company.

The role of the president is much more akin to the job of a CEO of a public corporation than a business where he and his family are the equity owners.

[FriscoDog]

Trump established major peace deals in M.E. Huge accomplishment.. to downplay this is dishonest..

[Guisslapp]

Trump established major peace deals in M.E. Huge accomplishment.. to downplay this is dishonest..

The fact that he did some things that were good doesn’t remotely offset the destruction he did. What America has is special, but it isn’t guaranteed. Attacking the credibility of elections purely for personal political gain is a dangerous wager to make and a gamble that others before Trump wouldn’t make.

[FriscoDog]

The fact that he did some things that were good doesn’t remotely offset the destruction he did. What America has is special, but it isn’t guaranteed. Attacking the credibility of elections purely for personal political gain is a dangerous wager to make and a gamble that others before Trump wouldn’t make.

There is enough "whistle blowers" that this needs to be looked into. If in the end, Biden wins, so be it. The integrity of the election process is all that keeps us from being a 3rd world country. This must be a priority, and I say this as a Trump voter, regardless of the outcome. This election cycle had things done that were NEVER done before. Many irregularities that took place. Changes to voting laws at last minute. Not validating signatures at all.. etc.

[PawDawg]

Attacking the credibility of elections purely for personal political gain is a dangerous wager to make and a gamble that others before Trump wouldn’t make.

Your were okay with the democrats doing this for the past 4 years.

[PawDawg]

...oh, and there hasn't been much integrity in the process since the days of Huey Long, LBJ, and JFK. All those guys won by cheating. Many more have as well. 90% have been democrats.

[johnnylightnin]

There is enough "whistle blowers" that this needs to be looked into. If in the end, Biden wins, so be it. The integrity of the election process is all that keeps us from being a 3rd world country. This must be a priority, and I say this as a Trump voter, regardless of the outcome. This election cycle had things done that were NEVER done before. Many irregularities that took place. Changes to voting laws at last minute. Not validating signatures at all.. etc.

Trump has been trying to denigrate the integrity of our election process for months. Look at how quickly his cases are being thrown out. The outcome is not in question. He's doing this because he's erratic and he thinks it helps him save face. The Republicans who are going along with it are doing so because they don't want to lose Trump's voters. They don't believe there was widespread fraud. They don't believe anything on the level of determinitive has taken place. Most of his own administration officials know this is fruitless, they're just scared of the tweets of a spurned Trump.

[Guisslapp]

There is enough "whistle blowers" that this needs to be looked into. If in the end, Biden wins, so be it. The integrity of the election process is all that keeps us from being a 3rd world country. This must be a priority, and I say this as a Trump voter, regardless of the outcome. This election cycle had things done that were NEVER done before. Many irregularities that took place. Changes to voting laws at last minute. Not validating signatures at all.. etc.

They offered cash to find whistleblowers. That tends to draw out the crazies. The allegations have been largely debunked so far. This has always been a theory in search of facts sort of complaint.

[dawg80]

The fact that he did some things that were good doesn’t remotely offset the destruction he did. What America has is special, but it isn’t guaranteed. Attacking the credibility of elections purely for personal political gain is a dangerous wager to make and a gamble that others before Trump wouldn’t make.

He did a LOT of good things for this nation and for the free world. And I still don't see a single thing that warrants a tag of "destruction." Yeah, the Swampers cry foul because he smashed into them like a bulldozer, but I don't give a rat's ass about them and their self-serving gripes. These Swampers include career politicians, those that benefit from them, including some major corporations, and of course the libtard lamestream media. That whole bunch needs to be destroyed.

That said, yes, I agree, this country is bigger than any one person and I will support Trump's efforts to verify the election results...right up to the point when all legit efforts have been exhausted. At that point, he and everyone else needs to accept the outcome. I also believe...no, KNOW, that this country will survive whatever comes out of this. That which doesn't kill you...makes you stronger.