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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    So, somebody tell me why Texas would hire this guy:

    USC:

    2015 leave of absence and termination


    On October 11, 2015, Haden announced Sarkisian would take an indefinite leave of absence. Haden contacted Sarkisian after he learned that Sarkisian had not shown up to a scheduled practice on October 11, 2015. During his conversation with Sarkisian, Haden said he became aware that Sarkisian was "not healthy" and asked Sarkisian to take an indefinite leave of absence. Offensive coordinator Clay Helton would serve as interim head coach in Sarkisian's absence.[19][20] ESPN later reported that Sarkisian came to a pre-practice meeting, only to have his assistants tell him to go home when he appeared to be intoxicated.[21] Scott Wolf, the USC beat writer for the Los Angeles Daily News, reported on Twitter that several players smelled alcohol on Sarkisian's breath.[22]
    On October 12, 2015, Haden announced that Sarkisian had been fired and named Helton as interim head coach for the remainder of the season (though the "interim" tag was removed after the season).[23] He subsequently revealed that he had tried to call Sarkisian to notify him personally, but by then Sarkisian was on his way to an out-of-state rehab facility and could not be reached. According to ESPN, Haden had placed Sarkisian on a zero-tolerance policy regarding alcohol use after Sarkisian claimed to have mixed alcohol with medication, despite the fact that he appeared simply to have drunk far too heavily before giving a drunken and profanity-laced speech at a booster club event (Sarkisian apologized after the incident before the 2015 season began). The apparent intoxication at practice would have been grounds for termination.[24] However, multiple reports said that Sarkisian's assistants believed he was drunk during a game against Arizona State.[23]
    Hours before Sarkisian's firing, the Los Angeles Times reported that Sarkisian had been involved in numerous alcohol-related incidents while at the University of Washington.[25] Haden admitted that he hadn't done a public-records check on Sarkisian prior to hiring him.[26]
    Sarkisian filed a $30 million wrongful termination lawsuit against USC, but later agreed to move it to private arbitration.[27][28] He eventually lost the suit, but would not appeal, stating that he would respect the result and move on.[29]

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    In September 2016, Alabama hired Sarkisian as an analyst for their football team.[30]
    Following Lane Kiffin's departure to become the head coach at Florida Atlantic, Sarkisian was promoted to the Alabama offensive coordinator position on January 2, 2017.[31] He stepped into the role in the National Championship game against Clemson. The Tide would lose narrowly to the Tigers in his first and only game of the 2016 season as offensive coordinator.
    This is copied straight from Steve Sarkisian's Wikipedia. I can't believe a guy with this kind of stain on his record could even sniff a job as big as the one at Texas. Someone please explain this to me. By any measure, this looks like a hiring nightmare.

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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Truth. But Mack's better off. He's got a good thing going now at UNC. He finished 8-3 this season, with two of those losses being by only 3 points each. The other loss was to CFP playoff team Notre Dame.

    Sarkisian = Retread
    I agree. Mack's time in Austin was done, and getting away from the sidelines recharged his batteries.

    The issue was and is what has happened since the correct move was made to replace him. Strong wasn't the right replacement, but I'm not sure the same thing can said about Herman. Something else seems to be going on this time.

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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    So, somebody tell me why Texas would hire this guy:



    This is copied straight from Steve Sarkisian's Wikipedia. I can't believe a guy with this kind of stain on his record could even sniff a job as big as the one at Texas. Someone please explain this to me. By any measure, this looks like a hiring nightmare.
    Sarkisian has had to walk the straight and narrow to be retained by Saban and to be successful in Tuscaloosa. The question is whether he can continue that in Austin. His hiring is now official.

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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    Texas is not the first team to hire a high profile token. The list is long. The hire gets 2 to 3 years, then they get fired and the team like Texas, Notre Dame, etc.. can claim being "woke".

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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Herman leaves with a $24 million buyout...nice consolation prize. Word is UT will hire Bama OC Steve Sarkesian (sp?). I think the "Hey! look at us!" UT Teasips want to be relevant and think Sarkesian can rescue them. Saban has a way of making assistants successful and relevant when under that Red Elephant umbrella with NFL+ talent. Yes, I mean some talent that is already superior to the average NFL players' talent (if not physical maturity yet to come). Doesn't mean these assistants will be able to duplicate their success at other schools. Heck! we have seen that many times already.

    I don't give a rat's butt about UT or its success in football, but as a neutral and somewhat knowledgeable college football fan, I think they should have given Herman another year or two. I smell a mistake brewing in Austin.
    Eleven seasons without a conference championship will makes those Texans do crazy things. He lost by 2 to TCU, by 3 to Iowa State and to Oklahoma in 4 overtimes. Small margin of error. I thought he had coached himself off the hot seat. Sarkisian has some mighty hard to please bosses. I hope his rehab at the Saban Clinic has him prepared.

    Herman's winning perecentage is superior to Skip's. He has never lost a bowl game or finished with a losing record. And his team was ranked at the end of the last three seasons. Being a football coach is sometimes about expectations, wish we had those at Tech. But all in all I agree, Herman is a very good coach, should still be at Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    If Sark can stay on the wagon, he’ll be a force.
    Might be easier said than done. He is replacing a guy who just had a pretty good season, all things considered. 7-3 record, ranked team, dismantled P5 bowl opponent. His 3 losses? TCU by 2 points (only bad loss this season), to Oklahoma in 4 OT's and to Iowa State by 3. He never lost a bowl game or had a losing season. Once he lost to TCU he was on the hot seat never to return, the decision makers knew a conference title wasn't in the cards. Expectations are high!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom View Post
    Eleven seasons without a conference championship will makes those Texans do crazy things. He lost by 2 to TCU, by 3 to Iowa State and to Oklahoma in 4 overtimes. Small margin of error. I thought he had coached himself off the hot seat. Sarkisian has some mighty hard to please bosses. I hope his rehab at the Saban Clinic has him prepared.

    Herman's winning perecentage is superior to Skip's. He has never lost a bowl game or finished with a losing record. And his team was ranked at the end of the last three seasons. Being a football coach is sometimes about expectations, wish we had those at Tech. But all in all I agree, Herman is a very good coach, should still be at Texas.
    Can we fire Skippy and hire Herman? With Herman’s buyout maybe we can get him on the cheap! ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Can we fire Skippy and hire Herman? With Herman’s buyout maybe we can get him on the cheap! ��
    Eagle I didn't want to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    I agree. Mack's time in Austin was done, and getting away from the sidelines recharged his batteries.

    The issue was and is what has happened since the correct move was made to replace him. Strong wasn't the right replacement, but I'm not sure the same thing can said about Herman. Something else seems to be going on this time.
    I was thinking the same thing, FD. Like maybe we haven't heard the entire story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Texas is not the first team to hire a high profile token. The list is long. The hire gets 2 to 3 years, then they get fired and the team like Texas, Notre Dame, etc.. can claim being "woke".
    Exactly.

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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    Sarkisian has had to walk the straight and narrow to be retained by Saban and to be successful in Tuscaloosa. The question is whether he can continue that in Austin. His hiring is now official.
    ...But he's already proved that he can't "walk the straight and narrow" and be the lead dog......He's obviously got a history of drinking on the job, and he's sued past employers. Why take the risk? And don't tell me it's because he's a successful coordinator at Alabama....every OC Bama's had on Saban's watch has been successful. That machine was built for success before Sarkisian ever arrived.

    I'm just shocked at this hire. It makes NO SENSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    ...But he's already proved that he can't "walk the straight and narrow" and be the lead dog......He's obviously got a history of drinking on the job, and he's sued past employers. Why take the risk? And don't tell me it's because he's a successful coordinator at Alabama....every OC Bama's had on Saban's watch has been successful. That machine was built for success before Sarkisian ever arrived.

    I'm just shocked at this hire. It makes NO SENSE.
    UT will be UT. Easily within the Top 5 athletic budgets and Top 10 endowments and they still have little to show fir it year after year. Of course it’s in one of the most liberal cities full of loons in America.

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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    ...But he's already proved that he can't "walk the straight and narrow" and be the lead dog......He's obviously got a history of drinking on the job, and he's sued past employers. Why take the risk? And don't tell me it's because he's a successful coordinator at Alabama....every OC Bama's had on Saban's watch has been successful. That machine was built for success before Sarkisian ever arrived.

    I'm just shocked at this hire. It makes NO SENSE.
    This guy has HD approved written all over him. He’s an offense guru who develops QBs. No incidents in what? 5 years? Sure, it’s a risk, but if you don’t see the upside, you need to learn more about this guy. If Saban can rehab Kiffin, I don’t know why he can’t rehab Sark.

    Alcoholism is bad, but it’s not undefeated. Millions of folks beat it daily (and continue to beat it each day). If Sark can do that, he’ll be fine. Far better than what’s going on in College Station. Should be interesting to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    This guy has HD approved written all over him. He’s an offense guru who develops QBs. No incidents in what? 5 years? Sure, it’s a risk, but if you don’t see the upside, you need to learn more about this guy. If Saban can rehab Kiffin, I don’t know why he can’t rehab Sark.

    Alcoholism is bad, but it’s not undefeated. Millions of folks beat it daily (and continue to beat it each day). If Sark can do that, he’ll be fine. Far better than what’s going on in College Station. Should be interesting to watch.
    But like HD said earlier, Sark couldn't handle it when he was the lead dog. Sark has been 100% insulated at Alabama with Saban.

    If he couldn't handle it at USC, I have a hard time seeing it being easier when the heat gets turned up in Austin. And it will get turned up white-hot if he doesn't beat Oklahoma, win the Big 12, and compete for the CFP title in the next couple of years.

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    Re: 2020-21 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    But like HD said earlier, Sark couldn't handle it when he was the lead dog. Sark has been 100% insulated at Alabama with Saban.

    If he couldn't handle it at USC, I have a hard time seeing it being easier when the heat gets turned up in Austin. And it will get turned up white-hot if he doesn't beat Oklahoma, win the Big 12, and compete for the CFP title in the next couple of years.
    I guess we’re about to find out.

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