President Trump

[Guisslapp]

They would have been harmed if they got caught. Some were in the Capitol to kill Pelosi and Pence. It isn’t like Bernie incited the guy that shot Scalise.

Again, a false equivalence.

And bear in mind, this was more than just an act of violence. It was an insurrection that had the goal of stopping the certification on the false belief that it would cause Trump to remain in power.

[glm47]

I didn’t expect you to answer the question honestly. To do so would be to condemn Trump, and you can’t admit that.

I’ve taken exception to a lot of things Trump has done and said so on this board. Unlike you, I don’t let my feelings one way or the other influence reality.

And the reality of this situation is that Trump didn’t promote it or cause it anymore than democrats have caused violence in the last 4 years. You just can’t accept that because you’re irrational because of your TDS.

[Guisslapp]

I’ve taken exception to a lot of things Trump has done and said so on this board. Unlike you, I don’t let my feelings one way or the other influence reality.

And the reality of this situation is that Trump didn’t promote it or cause it anymore than democrats have caused violence in the last 4 years. You just can’t accept that because you’re irrational because of your TDS.

The presentation of evidence proved otherwise today. Too bad you missed it.

[dawg80]

The presentation of evidence proved otherwise today. Too bad you missed it.

I didn't see any evidence that connected Trump to the "mob."

[FriscoDog]

They would have been harmed if they got caught. Some were in the Capitol to kill Pelosi and Pence. It isn’t like Bernie incited the guy that shot Scalise.

Again, a false equivalence.

That is your opinion.. You have no idea what motivated that guy. You always like to project and spew hyperbole. Did any one admit that they were in the capital to Kill Pelosi and Pence?? Link??

[Guisslapp]

That is your opinion.. You have no idea what motivated that guy. You always like to project and spew hyperbole. Did any one admit that they were in the capital to Kill Pelosi and Pence?? Link??

What did Bernie say to incite him?

The fact that some were there to kill Pelosi/Pence was part of the presentation today.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.koi...er-pelosi/amp/

[Guisslapp]

Tons of evidence today showing people responding directly to Trump’s speech and tweets leading up to and during the attack.

People thought Trump approved of what they were doing.

[glm47]

You

The presentation of evidence proved otherwise today. Too bad you missed it.

You’re interpreting the evidence to get the outcome you want because of you’re TDS, just like you did with the Mueller report. I haven’t missed anything.

Are you really a freaking lawyer?

[Guisslapp]

You

You’re interpreting the evidence to get the outcome you want because of you’re TDS, just like you did with the Mueller report. I haven’t missed anything.

Are you really a freaking lawyer?

Unlike you, I listen to the evidence. You still haven’t read the Mueller report, have you?

[FriscoDog]

Unlike you, I listen to the evidence. You still haven’t read the Mueller report, have you?

Can you do me a favor.. Can you go to the Mueller report and cut and paste the page that states where Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election? I am not as versed in the Mueller report as you are. TIA.

ETA: From American Bar Association.


The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but “did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”
As far as obstruction, the Mueller report laid out facts on both sides but did not reach a conclusion. Barr’s letter said that “the Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
But Barr said that he and Rosenstein "have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."

[Guisslapp]

Can you do me a favor.. Can you go to the Mueller report and cut and paste the page that states where Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election? I am not as versed in the Mueller report as you are. TIA.

ETA: From American Bar Association.


The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but “did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”
As far as obstruction, the Mueller report laid out facts on both sides but did not reach a conclusion. Barr’s letter said that “the Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
But Barr said that he and Rosenstein "have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."

Yon should read the report.

[Guisslapp]

Can you do me a favor.. Can you go to the Mueller report and cut and paste the page that states where Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election? I am not as versed in the Mueller report as you are. TIA.

ETA: From American Bar Association.


The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but “did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”
As far as obstruction, the Mueller report laid out facts on both sides but did not reach a conclusion. Barr’s letter said that “the Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
But Barr said that he and Rosenstein "have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."

That whole quote is actually summarizing Barr’s summary of the Mueller report and not the report itself. Go back and read the ABA news release again. The way you quoted it was misleading.

[FriscoDog]

That whole quote is actually summarizing Barr’s summary of the Mueller report and not the report itself. Go back and read the ABA news release again. The way you quoted it was misleading.

So please paste from the Mueller report.. the page and section that it states where Trump or members of his campaign colluded and conspired with Russia in the 2016 election.

[Guisslapp]

So please paste from the Mueller report.. the page and section that it states where Trump or members of his campaign colluded and conspired with Russia in the 2016 election.

Read the report or go back to the old thread where I cited a lot of it.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

If we want to swear Trump back in so the standard can be met, by all means, let’s do that.

Amen!!