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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    For decades the US has maintained a policy known as “strategic ambiguity” with regard to Taiwan - look at the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act to understand.
    Yes, but the question remains, what will the US (and our allies) do if the Chicoms force the issue? I suppose that's kind of a rhetorical question since there is no pat answer. Will depend, in large part, on who is POTUS and what the current "mood" is of our key allies.

    The best opportunity for the Chicoms to attack Taiwan, and win, was during the obummer era. The US didn't have a single carrier on active, operational patrol for a period of time. That was also before our gallant President Trump began building "the Quads" and most importantly, our Pacific allies took it upon themselves to invest heavily in their militaries. If the Chicoms are serious, and confident, about invading Taiwan they should have done so back then.

    Now, the US has 27 active, operational carriers and our Pacific allies 8 more, and the Brits have deployed a carrier task force to "the Chicom theater of operation" too. Dozens of small, hardly noticed, nations have joined in the anti-Chicom defense umbrella. The island nation of The Maldives have just received their first shipment of US-built anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles. They sit astride an important trade route, especially for Chicom oil tankers coming/going to the Middle-East. And, The Maldives provide an important cover for India's naval operations.

    I could go on, but the point is, IF the Chicoms were really confident of successfully seizing Taiwan they would have during the obummer era. Today, they would get clobbered and their entire invasion force obliterated.

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    Exactly, ambiguity is the point. So far, the policy has allowed for Taiwan’s peaceful coexistence and de facto independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Exactly, ambiguity is the point. So far, the policy has allowed for Taiwan’s peaceful coexistence and de facto independence.
    Yeah, kind of...

    The "peaceful" part is kind of wishy-washy as they live under a constant threat, 24/7, of a Chicom invasion. Easy for you (anyone) to say the current policy is working, but I bet the average Taiwanese would beg to differ. Certainly, thanks in large part to our gallant President Trump's leadership, the situation has improved for Taiwan. At least now they can look around and see other nations, their neighbors, taking a stand next to them. They know they are not alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Yeah, kind of...

    The "peaceful" part is kind of wishy-washy as they live under a constant threat, 24/7, of a Chicom invasion. Easy for you (anyone) to say the current policy is working, but I bet the average Taiwanese would beg to differ. Certainly, thanks in large part to our gallant President Trump's leadership, the situation has improved for Taiwan. At least now they can look around and see other nations, their neighbors, taking a stand next to them. They know they are not alone.
    Anything more definitive risks threatening Chinese sovereignty and the end to what peace they have been experiencing.

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    Re: China

    Back to our Chinese defector...


    Chinese Defector Has 'Direct Knowledge' of Several Chinese Special Weapons Programs


    RedState’s sources say that’s partially true. FBI Director Christopher Wray was “ambushed” with the information, they say, and Langley was also unaware. Sources say DIA leadership kept the defector within their Clandestine Services network to prevent Langley and the State Department from accessing the person, whose existence was kept from other agencies because DIA leadership believes there are Chinese spies or sources inside the FBI, CIA, and several other federal agencies.


    This is troubling...

    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/06/04/exclusive-high-ranking-chinese-defector-has-direct-knowledge-of-several-chinese-special-weapons-programs-n391238


    This isn't some jackwagon who has these concerns about our FBI and CIA.. or some internet kook.. this is the DIA..

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    US Marine F-35s leave a calling card for ISIS on their way to the South China Sea;

    For the First Time Since WWII, U.S. Fighters Flew Strikes From a British Carrier (msn.com)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    US Marine F-35s leave a calling card for ISIS on their way to the South China Sea;

    For the First Time Since WWII, U.S. Fighters Flew Strikes From a British Carrier (msn.com)
    OK, that ramp on the British carrier was cool as s&%$! The article said that eliminates the need for the catapult (but I assume they still need something like that to land).

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    Re: China

    Well, I hope we meet this threat with a big helping of more ambiguity. That'll show them.

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    Re: China

    Taiwan has only to look at Hong Kong and how the Chicoms can be trusted...they can be trusted to lie! that's for sure.

    Better to fight to the death. I think if Taiwan can weather the storm and extend the Chicoms into a protracted war, with help, of course, then the commie party will collapse, I think. There are regions in China on a knife's edge ready to revolt against the evil commie bastards. Taiwan can be that catalyst that encourages others, including in the Chinese military, to fight for freedom. The whole awful system will fold like a house of cards.

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    Re: China

    Last time we saw this kind of planned armed expansionism the perps were wearing swastikas on their sleeves and also had their designs on world domination.

    Will Biden be our Neville Chamberlain? Sometimes drawing a real line in the sand that you are willing to defend at all costs is the only way to prevent a real war.

    Remember, WW2 started with Germany just taking what they thought was already theirs, just like China claims today. We aren't helping matters by running our supply chains through China (who uses slave labor to undercut American labor....but that's just jobs moving where they are more efficiently done according to some on here).

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Last time we saw this kind of planned armed expansionism the perps were wearing swastikas on their sleeves and also had their designs on world domination.

    Will Biden be our Neville Chamberlain? Sometimes drawing a real line in the sand that you are willing to defend at all costs is the only way to prevent a real war.

    Remember, WW2 started with Germany just taking what they thought was already theirs, just like China claims today. We aren't helping matters by running our supply chains through China (who uses slave labor to undercut American labor....but that's just jobs moving where they are more efficiently done according to some on here).

    These people who talk about China's efficient labor market (Slave labor) as you point out, conveniently ignore that and all of the other human rights abuses that China is currently doing now, yet are so concerned about equity and being "woke" here in U.S.

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