Tech's best possible, REALISTIC conference movement

[revf]

I respect your opinion. I just think this is similar to 2012. I had people on this board telling me we had no shot at CUSA. I even had a Cajun fan send me a private message telling me we would never get into CUSA before them. Yet, when the dust settled we were CUSA's first choice. Had CUSA had one opening it would have gone to Tech. Two openings it would have been Tech and FIU.

I posted this in another thread, and I think it's worth posting again. We have our negatives, but....

• Before a crazy covid year we had won 6 consecutive bowl games, including 2 P5 bowl wins and consecutive bowl wins over Navy, SMU, and Hawaii.
  

• In the last 9 years we've averaged almost 24 wins a season in men's basketball.

• At the same time, we've spent $87 million on athletic facilities (not including improvements to the TAC) with almost no debt (a bigger deal than most realize)

• While we're not an AAU school we're a national research university with good academics.

• To top it off we have a national brand that few others in the G5 can match.

• We've also shared a conference in the past with some of the schools in the AAC who will be making these decisions.

Don't forget the recent run in CBWS. We got some real national exposure through that. Social media was blowing up with Pump It Up. (My own personal opinion was we lost to the team that should have eventually won the World Series if not for stupid Covid rules. They were so clearly the best team in Omaha. So nothing to hang our heads about.)

On the flip side it will be interesting to see if college football drives the realignment or if regional conference drive the realignment. I think dawg80 is right the era of "competitive G5" is drawing to a close. With the P4s sealing up their conferences with enough members to have entire seasons in conference play only (add in one money game win for homecoming) and expanding the playoffs to more P4 teams it's over. G5s will be given scraps. The future will be whatever 64 teams happen to be in the P4 conferences.

I can guarantee those in Big 12 are scrambling now or they will get crushed. Those not named Texas or Oklahoma are about to be left behind with the rest of us.

P4 will be Pac12, ACC, Big 10, SEC.

We lost the football track race.

What we can do is play competitive regional football and grow really good regional rivalries. I think attaching ourselves to USM is a good start. They need us just as much as we need them right now. Many on this board will hate it, but we also probably need to attach ourselves to ULL. Local growth with big rivalries will be the best thing to hope for in the future for football.

Now can we be competitive in Basketball and Baseball? Absolutely.

[Champ967]

D Many on this board will hate it, but we also probably need to attach ourselves to ULL.

[dawg80]

If it means stomping ulm into oblivion...or at least back to SLC, I could tolerate conference affiliation with ULL.

[PawDawg]

If it means stomping ulm into oblivion...or at least back to SLC, I could tolerate conference affiliation with ULL.

Yes they are after all, the fagship program of the UL System.

[Mad Italian]

Yes they are after all, the fagship program of the UL System.

You talking about ULM?

[revf]

Yeah, I know.

IT SUCKS.

It should also tell you the level our program has coasted to the last 10 years...

And the fact that CFB as we know it is over.

There is now Pro football, Semi-Pro football(P4), and everyone else...

[qng001]

ESPN/Disney ruined college football.

[PawDawg]

Yep and Tommy McLelland did his part locally. He was a HORRIBLE hire and made some HORRIBLE hires

[Blue Dawg]

ESPN/Disney ruined college football.

Maybe, but I wonder if not them then someone else. There is too much money flowing through it.

[FriscoDawg]

....and I would argue that UTEP has never recovered. Never.

And Hawai'i thanks UTEP every day for making that stupid move. UTEP likely would have gotten their spot in MWC football.

The Warriors/Rainbow Warriors/Rainbows are in tough football times now with the old Aloha Stadium closed for good. Going to be rough on the budget having to play on campus with seating expanded from 3,500 to around 9,000 this year and up to 15,000 next year and in 2023 until the new Aloha Stadium can open in 2024 at the earliest if plans can get off the ground.

[qng001]

And Hawai'i thanks UTEP every day for making that stupid move. UTEP likely would have gotten their spot in MWC football.

The Warriors/Rainbow Warriors/Rainbows are in tough football times now with the old Aloha Stadium closed for good. Going to be rough on the budget having to play on campus with seating expanded from 3,500 to around 9,000 this year and up to 15,000 next year and in 2023 until the new Aloha Stadium can open in 2024 at the earliest if plans can get off the ground.

Looks like they have 3 renderings. All seems pretty nice. Capacity reduced from 50k to somewhere around 35k which seems appropriate.

[FriscoDawg]

Looks like they have 3 renderings. All seems pretty nice. Capacity reduced from 50k to somewhere around 35k which seems appropriate.

The problem is that they only have renderings. Becoming a stretch to have any new stadium ready for 2024. In the meantime, this is where Hawai'i will play and also where the Hawai'i Bowl will have to be held.

[qng001]

The problem is that they only have renderings. Becoming a stretch to have any new stadium ready for 2024. In the meantime, this is where Hawai'i will play and also where the Hawai'i Bowl will have to be held.

Not too bad for their temp home for a few years. There's not much option on the island.

[revf]

Big Ten, PAC-12, ACC formed an alliance.

Just like that the Big 12 has become a G6.

[The Historian]

Big Ten, PAC-12, ACC formed an alliance.

Just like that the Big 12 has become a G6.

They're talking about forming an alliance. It hasn't happened yet.