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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    It was never sold/marketed to be needed every six months.
    They didn’t know it’s durability because they didn’t have data beyond 6 months. Warp Speed, remember? They are likely to recommend a booster at 8 months based on the combination of the factors of durability and the very high virulence of delta.

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    I don't recall ever seeing any mentions of boosters, 6 months out, being needed. I am not surprised by this though. Now, there was...always was!...talk of the China virus vax becoming an annual thing, like the flu shot. The annual flu shot is engineered, tweaked, on what the experts THINK will be the most likely form(s) of flu that season. It's a formula, a mix. Yes, the inFLUenza viruses are different than the Covid (SARS) viruses, and no one truly knows all there is to know about this version: China Virus Covid-19 (SARS II)...yet. But, eventually medical science, virologists, will have it figured out.

    In the past, and this hopefully will be true of China Virus Covid-19 too, covid epidemics/pandemics have a huge outbreak then go dormant of periods of 10+ years.

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    You guys should follow CNBC. That is where the real news is.

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    More evidence that immunity from the vaccine is more effective than immunity from previous infection.

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...rotection.html

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You guys should follow CNBC. That is where the real news is.
    It WAS NOT out there nor part of the "marketing jargon".

    It's like they are HATING to give us the news of what will certainly be mandatory booster shots now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    It WAS NOT out there nor part of the "marketing jargon".

    It's like they are HATING to give us the news of what will certainly be mandatory booster shots now.
    I don’t follow marketing jargon. But those of us that have been following the facts and science knew this was coming and have been waiting on the data showing the length of durability.

    Figuring out the optimal time to push boosters evolves with the data. There is only so much vaccine to go around so we want to make sure that the vaccines are pushed to where they will provide the most benefit. In general, we protect our population from new variants by getting the whole world vaxxed, but only to the point that the US vaxxed population has not lost so much durability that they, too, are more likely to spread the virus.

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    Again, Fauci, Pfizer and Moderna were all talking about this in April. Sorry you weren’t paying attention but that can happen when you live in an alternate news universe.

    The subject got hot again when the Israel data started to show that their population (which was vaxxed a couple months ahead of us) were seeing breakthrough infections with the spread of delta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Again, Fauci, Pfizer and Moderna were all talking about this in April. Sorry you weren’t paying attention but that can happen when you live in an alternate news universe.

    The subject got hot again when the Israel data started to show that their population (which was vaxxed a couple months ahead of us) were seeing breakthrough infections with the spread of delta.
    What did Fauci say in April? He said this last Thursday. I heard it on an ABC news and CBS news report.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...unocompromised

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    What did Fauci say in April? He said this last Thursday. I heard it on an ABC news and CBS news report.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...unocompromised
    I already posted the video of his interview in April:

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/20...ntv-nr-vpx.cnn

    Your article talks about the same balancing issue I mentioned - the tradeoff between getting the world vaccinated versus getting Americans boosted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post

    Your article talks about the same balancing issue I mentioned - the tradeoff between getting the world vaccinated versus getting Americans boosted.
    No it doesn't. Fauci plainly says...

    for people who have compromised immune systems (roughly 3%)


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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No it doesn't. Fauci plainly says...

    for people who have compromised immune systems (roughly 3%)

    For immunocompromised, it is an easier call as to the need for a booster now. For others the real question is how long to wait.

    Fauci doesn’t say others don’t need a booster. Go back and reread your article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You guys should follow CNBC. That is where the real news is.
    I watch CNBC every day. BBC has "real news" too. As does an Australian network I watch via streaming.

    FOX News is the best of the traditional networks. And, I actually watched a little of the Don Lemon show on CNN and saw some "real" opinions, as he had a GOP pollster and some other guy who just possesses some common sense. What was funny was watching the grimaces on Lemon's face when he was given some real truths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    I watch CNBC every day. BBC has "real news" too. As does an Australian network I watch via streaming.

    FOX News is the best of the traditional networks. And, I actually watched a little of the Don Lemon show on CNN and saw some "real" opinions, as he had a GOP pollster and some other guy who just possesses some common sense. What was funny was watching the grimaces on Lemon's face when he was given some real truths.
    Then you knew boosters were in our future, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Then you knew boosters were in our future, too.
    I can recall questions being asked, such as a TV guy asking a doctor, "Do you think booster shots will be necessary?" But I don't recall any so-called expert given a clear, definitive answer of "yes." Just opinions it was a possibility. Opinions do not equal news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    I can recall questions being asked, such as a TV guy asking a doctor, "Do you think booster shots will be necessary?" But I don't recall any so-called expert given a clear, definitive answer of "yes." Just opinions it was a possibility. Opinions do not equal news.
    Do you see the segments with Gottlieb? Essentially, Pfizer (and Moderna) put in FDA applications for the booster once they had the data for it (early July), but the expectation (then) was that it was going to take the FDA a couple months to approve it.

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