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    Re: Covid - 19

    What is the point of issuing a rule that prohibits businesses from requiring masks? Businesses can require shoes or shirts, but no masks?

    What can schools do to make sure all the kids don’t get COVID?

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    What is the point of issuing a rule that mandates masks? Schools can’t do anything because they can’t force students to wear masks correctly much less at all. You and your leftist haters live in a bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    What is the point of issuing a rule that mandates masks? Schools can’t do anything because they can’t force students to wear masks correctly much less at all. You and your leftist haters live in a bubble
    Because it makes people safer. What public good does the ban on mask rules accomplish?

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    NYC requiring proof of vaccination and ID to enter a restaurant.

    The purpose of the ID is to limit “fraud”.

    What a bunch of racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Because it makes people safer. What public good does the ban on mask rules accomplish?
    mask mandates don’t make people safer if the students don’t comply. They don’t

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    mask mandates don’t make people safer if the students don’t comply. They don’t
    It makes kids safer even if all of them do not comply.

    Why are you so binary?

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    Re: Covid - 19

    For a mask to be effective at school each child must sanitize their hands, take a mask as they enter the classroom, never touch it after it is on their face, throw it away as they leave the classroom, sanitize their hands again since they touched a dirty mask, the classroom door, or anything else, then proceed to their next class and start over. They must also wear them properly at all times. A mask of ANY kind worn all day does nothing but encourage sickness. They get dirty, sweaty, dropped on the floor, worn into bathrooms and locker rooms, oh, and they aren’t worn properly anyway. Also, we have yet to find a material that my daughter can wear for more than 30-45 minutes that doesn’t break her out in a rash. No allergies, just sensitive skin that gets irritated quickly. That is miserable. But I guess a small price to pay for the illusion of safety.

    This all seems like the perfect recipe for success does it not. Getting 1st graders to wears masks. Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It makes kids safer even if all of them do not comply.

    Why are you so binary?
    Blanket mandates from people who don't understand or care about children's needs is the definition of binary thinking.

    At best, masks WORN CORRECTLY is only part of the solution, but that's the only part you people focus on. Forcing them to be worn correctly is as impossible as forcing them to be worn.

    You do realize you are following the idiots who run the teacher's unions don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Blanket mandates from people who don't understand or care about children's needs is the definition of binary thinking.

    At best, masks WORN CORRECTLY is only part of the solution, but that's the only part you people focus on. Forcing them to be worn correctly is as impossible as forcing them to be worn.

    You do realize you are following the idiots who run the teacher's unions don't you?
    I’ll tell you who is focusing on masks…that is DeSantis and Abbott who issued orders prohibiting businesses making rules on them. Except instead of focusing on how people can use them as part of an overall strategy, they wanted to remove this effective tool from people. And there is no justifiable reason for doing so other than catering to their anti-intellectual base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    For a mask to be effective at school each child must sanitize their hands, take a mask as they enter the classroom, never touch it after it is on their face, throw it away as they leave the classroom, sanitize their hands again since they touched a dirty mask, the classroom door, or anything else, then proceed to their next class and start over. They must also wear them properly at all times. A mask of ANY kind worn all day does nothing but encourage sickness. They get dirty, sweaty, dropped on the floor, worn into bathrooms and locker rooms, oh, and they aren’t worn properly anyway. Also, we have yet to find a material that my daughter can wear for more than 30-45 minutes that doesn’t break her out in a rash. No allergies, just sensitive skin that gets irritated quickly. That is miserable. But I guess a small price to pay for the illusion of safety.

    This all seems like the perfect recipe for success does it not. Getting 1st graders to wears masks. Ha!
    That isn’t the only way a mask would be effective. Because any moment a kid is wearing a mask they are projecting viral particles a much shorter distance. For that class period, kids sitting at least a few feet away from them have a chance of not getting COVID from them.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Here's a very small snippit in the much bigger picture of this mess...

    I know 4 men, between the ages of 33 and 54, two of them fully vaxxed, the other two no vax. All 4 tested positive for China Delta, all 4 got sick, they all had the same experience, light flu-like symptoms, low grade fever and all perfectly fine by day 7. Three of the four are dedicated mask-wearers, the 4th is (was) a sometime mask-wearer, and he was one of the vaxxed ones. Michael A., age 33, has been one of those "militant" advocates for vaxxing, wearing masks, social distancing...he has been on Facebook for over a year cheerleading every mandate, encouraging folks to comply, chastising those who don't. He just posted that he can't explain why HE, one of those Fauci-worshippers, got sick from China Delta, but he still believes everything.

    Of course there are those posting on his FB page with the "told you so." His wife posted she has followed the same regimen, and of course, they have been, ahem, very close, sharing food, kissing, etc... and she has not even tested positive for the virus. I am no virologist so I have no idea how this is possible, except to speculate our individual bodies, and its defense system, is very unique and will respond to outside threats in very different ways. If, BIG IF, this is more common, and not just some isolated incidents, then this does cast doubt on everything "we" have tried. It might be it is just a random luck lottery, and either you get the virus or you don't and there are no measures to change that.

    A very close friend, Nora D., a 61 yr old woman, has never worn a mask, claims medical reasons, is not vaxxed, and even cared for a friend last year who got clobbered by the China virus and she has never, ever had an issue. She refuses to get tested too so it is possible she is virus-positive, but heck! it hasn't affected her any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Here's a very small snippit in the much bigger picture of this mess...

    I know 4 men, between the ages of 33 and 54, two of them fully vaxxed, the other two no vax. All 4 tested positive for China Delta, all 4 got sick, they all had the same experience, light flu-like symptoms, low grade fever and all perfectly fine by day 7. Three of the four are dedicated mask-wearers, the 4th is (was) a sometime mask-wearer, and he was one of the vaxxed ones. Michael A., age 33, has been one of those "militant" advocates for vaxxing, wearing masks, social distancing...he has been on Facebook for over a year cheerleading every mandate, encouraging folks to comply, chastising those who don't. He just posted that he can't explain why HE, one of those Fauci-worshippers, got sick from China Delta, but he still believes everything.

    Of course there are those posting on his FB page with the "told you so." His wife posted she has followed the same regimen, and of course, they have been, ahem, very close, sharing food, kissing, etc... and she has not even tested positive for the virus. I am no virologist so I have no idea how this is possible, except to speculate our individual bodies, and its defense system, is very unique and will respond to outside threats in very different ways. If, BIG IF, this is more common, and not just some isolated incidents, then this does cast doubt on everything "we" have tried. It might be it is just a random luck lottery, and either you get the virus or you don't and there are no measures to change that.

    A very close friend, Nora D., a 61 yr old woman, has never worn a mask, claims medical reasons, is not vaxxed, and even cared for a friend last year who got clobbered by the China virus and she has never, ever had an issue. She refuses to get tested too so it is possible she is virus-positive, but heck! it hasn't affected her any.
    There is a big difference in hospitalization/death for people that were not vaccinated.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    That isn’t the only way a mask would be effective. Because any moment a kid is wearing a mask they are projecting viral particles a much shorter distance. For that class period, kids sitting at least a few feet away from them have a chance of not getting COVID from them.
    But if masks+Vaccines+social distance is so effective, then why the spike in Hawaii that is doing all of those and then some?

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Hearing that the rapid tests are being thrown out because many people tested positive for China virus, but have been tested for antibodies and don’t have any. Apparently, the rapid test picks up several infections. Also, hospitals get more money if people are positive. This whole thing still stinks to me. If they require a higher level of care, that’s one thing. But just having beds full of “Covid” patients should not get the hospital more compensation.

    This stuff doesn’t add up. People pushing certain things stand to make a ton of money because they helped develop said thing. Or they lobby for said thing, or said thing donated to their campaign. It just stinks.

    How many have been hospitalized and/or died from something else labeled as Covid because of a faulty test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    But if masks+Vaccines+social distance is so effective, then why the spike in Hawaii that is doing all of those and then some?
    Because kids aren’t vaxxed. Hawaii proves masking plus social distancing works. Once Texas schools have been open for three weeks we can compare Texas to Hawaii. Houston ISD schools open this week.

    We know reopening schools will increase transmission because you are putting a lot of unvaxxed people together.

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