Covid - 19

[dawg80]

Awww, did your little boo-boo hurt?

What's that you were preaching about having a little empathy?

[Guisslapp]

What's that you were preaching about having a little empathy?

That is what I was doing. Channeling DNW.

[techman05]

My wife got COVID in February. She was over it in 7 days (with high blood pressure and other conditions), and during that time repeatedly sneezed on me and coughed on me and I even handled her test kit when she went and found out she had COVID. I NEVER got anything. No fever, sneezing or anything like that at all. Two months later I went and got the vaccine and had an allergic reaction to it where I spent a few hours under observation as my bleeding would not stop and my arm swelled up about twice it's size (much to the delight of our resident know-it-all, soy boy here).


I respect everyone's decisions about this, and in no way to I think there is a one-size-fits-all solution to be mandated here. Obviously I will not be getting a booster because of my reaction, but would recommend the vaccine to anyone that has not had a reaction to the shot OR HAS NOT HAD COVID.

I doubt it's random luck, though. Some folks obviously have some natural immunity to the virus. It's possible. I had to take a smallpox vaccination numerous times as a child because I never had one take.

Glad your reaction wasn’t more serious. My daughter has similar swelling reaction to the flu shot. Each year she has gotten one, the swelling is more wide spread and lasts longer. We are probably not doing the shot for our kids this year.

I am curious to see if this vaccine has a similar progression for people who choose to get the annual (you can bet) booster. If they had localized swelling with shots 1 and 2, will it get progressively worse with each dose? Will it produce a dependence (drug companies hope so)?

[Guisslapp]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ariant-surge1/

[FriscoDawg]

Didn’t they just announce problems with Moderna that could prevent FDA approval? Convenient for Pfizer.

The FDA rules state that once any treatment receives general approval, all emergency approvals for that category are automatically to be rescinded. Just another inconvenient detail the FDA is intentionally overlooking.

There are problems with all of the experimental jabs. A political stamp of approval changes nothing.

[Guisslapp]

The FDA rules state that once any treatment receives general approval, all emergency approvals for that category are automatically to be rescinded. Just another inconvenient detail the FDA is intentionally overlooking.

You should unsubscribe from your anti-vax newsfeeds.

[Guisslapp]

The FDA rules state that once any treatment receives general approval, all emergency approvals for that category are automatically to be rescinded. Just another inconvenient detail the FDA is intentionally overlooking.

You were snookered (again)

2. Termination of an EUA Declaration

When an EUA declaration is terminated, then any EUA(s) issued based on that declaration will no longer remain in effect.18 The HHS Secretary’s EUA declaration will terminate on the earlier of: (1) a determination by the HHS Secretary that the circumstances that precipitated the declaration have ceased (after consultation as appropriate with the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Secretary of Defense), or (2) a change in the approval status of the product such that the authorized use(s) of the product are no longer unapproved (section 564(b)(2)). For example, an EUA issued to allow an unapproved use of an approved product may no longer be needed if that product is later approved by FDA for the use permitted by the EUA.

Noticeably absent is any mention of the word “category.” Instead, the termination applies on a per declaration basis (and bear in mind that other EUAs still exist for Pfizer vaccine, like for kids and for boosters of immunocompromised). The JNJ and Moderna vaccines were part of separate EUA declarations issued on different days.

[Guisslapp]

Saw another good one on the Internet about how to get anti-vaxxers vaccinated:

Step 1 - set aside 15 million Pfizer vaccines
Step 2 - give them a name like Hydroxychlorozinc
Step 3 - give them to veterinarians and alternative medicine doctors
Step 4 - create a viral marketing campaign titled “Hydroxychlorozinc: the secret cure to COVID that the government doesn’t want you to know about.”

[FriscoDawg]

Time for the FDA to be abolished since it now follows political influence more than it does science.

The Pfizer vaccine, at no better than 40% efficacy in the latest scientific studies, no longer meets the 50% efficacy threshold to even be granted an emergency approval according the FDA's own rules.

Found the FDA China virus report updated in May with the guidelines for emergency authorization that are now not being met.

Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccines to Prevent COVID-19; Guidance for Industry (fda.gov)

For a preventive COVID-19 vaccine to be potentially administered to millions of individuals, including healthy individuals, data adequate to inform an assessment of the vaccine’s benefits and risks and support issuance of an EUA would include not only meeting the prespecified success criteria for the study’s primary efficacy endpoint as described in the guidance for industry entitled “Development and Licensure of Vaccines to Prevent COVID-19” (Ref. 1) (i.e. a point estimate for a placebo-controlled efficacy trial of at least 50%, with a lower bound of the appropriately alpha-adjusted confidence interval around the primary efficacy endpoint point estimate of >30%) but also additional safety and effectiveness data as described below. The timing of interim analyses planned for a Phase 3 study would thus ideally be aligned with the ability of the analyses to meet these criteria.

Pfizer Shot Just 39% Effective Against Delta Infection, But Largely Prevents Severe Illness, Israel Study Suggests (forbes.com)

[PawDawg]

Saw another good one on the Internet about how to get anti-vaxxers vaccinated:

Step 1 - set aside 15 million Pfizer vaccines
Step 2 - give them a name like Hydroxychlorozinc
Step 3 - give them to veterinarians and alternative medicine doctors
Step 4 - create a viral marketing campaign titled “Hydroxychlorozinc: the secret cure to COVID that the government doesn’t want you to know about.”

None of these steps will get those leftist voters who suffer from racial injustice to the shot spots.

[Guisslapp]

Found the FDA China virus report updated in May with the guidelines for emergency authorization that are now not being met.

Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccines to Prevent COVID-19; Guidance for Industry (fda.gov)

For a preventive COVID-19 vaccine to be potentially administered to millions of individuals, including healthy individuals, data adequate to inform an assessment of the vaccine’s benefits and risks and support issuance of an EUA would include not only meeting the prespecified success criteria for the study’s primary efficacy endpoint as described in the guidance for industry entitled “Development and Licensure of Vaccines to Prevent COVID-19” (Ref. 1) (i.e. a point estimate for a placebo-controlled efficacy trial of at least 50%, with a lower bound of the appropriately alpha-adjusted confidence interval around the primary efficacy endpoint point estimate of >30%) but also additional safety and effectiveness data as described below. The timing of interim analyses planned for a Phase 3 study would thus ideally be aligned with the ability of the analyses to meet these criteria.

Pfizer Shot Just 39% Effective Against Delta Infection, But Largely Prevents Severe Illness, Israel Study Suggests (forbes.com)

Irrelevant.

It is more protective against “infection” earlier when your antibodies levels haven’t waned 8 months down the road.

It is still protective against hospitalization and death.

Someone is misleading you because you are keeping your crank out to be yanked.

[dawg80]

Since I cruise all kinds of sites for "news" and opinions and the like, I do occasionally come across some, ahem, interesting theories....

One blog has a thread going, surpassing 1,400 comments now, that the sudden FDA approval of the Pfizer vax is a fix designed to deliver some good news to the tanking Biden administration and serve as a distraction to the total boondoggle in Kabul.

Hey! I just report what some folks are saying/posting...

[Guisslapp]

My neighborhood elementary school has 70 active cases already and 22 percent of students are absent.

[PawDawg]

My neighborhood elementary school has 70 active cases already and 22 percent of students are absent.

Your masking BS won't solve that.

The 22% who are absent are likely 95% of the parent's choosing.

Total percentage that 70 cases represents? Less than 5%?

[Guisslapp]

Your masking BS won't solve that.

The 22% who are absent are likely 95% of the parent's choosing.

Total percentage that 70 cases represents? Less than 5%?

Almost 10 percent.

Hearing that some Conroe schools might have to close next week because of not enough teachers.