Nor did West Virginia, but here we are ...Originally Posted by PawDawg
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Nor did West Virginia, but here we are ...
WV was no threat to Texas or Oklahoma. The Big12 was thinking out of the box to gain some market on the east coast (back when market mattered).
FWIW, the Big12 may be desperate, but saving money is suddenly more important than is was when WV was added.
I may be wrong. UCF may jump at the chance.
With the way things have broken, it appears the B12 will be adding schools. I think they'll add two very quickly, possibly as early as next year. That would probably be BYU and Cincy. Then when UT and OU leave, they'll add two more. That will likely be UCF, but I'm not sure on the fourth. It might be USF to give UCF a partner. The other two choices seem to be Memphis and Houston -- both of which have lots of warts in the eyes of the B12 schools.
Pac 12 makes the decision not to expand.
BYU is at the negotiating table as we speak. Rumor is Cincy will be next. Now if they only pick those two then that will stop the expansion carousel. If they pick up three from the AAC its gonna be a free for all in CUSA. There is also a chance that BYU may rebuff the Big12.
I don't know why everybody seems to think Houston's "got warts". Houston already has better TV ratings than all other G5 schools not named BYU. Yes, better than Cincinnati (who is 6th), better than Boise, and better than Memphis & UCF. Furthermore, Houston's TV ratings have a better chance of growing exponentially quickly by joining the Big XII, simply due the renewal of old rivalries with Baylor, TCU and Texas Tech, which are also of interest to the Houston TV market. None of the other schools offer that.
If I was the Big XII, the University of Houston would be the 2nd school I signed up, right behind BYU. I would never invite Cincinnati, at least not as long as West Virginia insists on courting other conferences outside of the Big XII. Why invest in Cincinnati, when WVA could easily leave, and then Cincinnati becomes your new "stranded" member way up in Ohio. Plus, Cincinnati's TV numbers are not great. IMO, it would be a foolish investment.
Everyone except BYU, Big12, and the TV networks think BYU is a good fit. They WILL NOT play on Sunday. No deal.
Houston has leadership problems. They had their chance 5 years ago with the Big12 and blew it.
Now, they would be joining a steroid injected MWC or AAC….no real major benefit….because the Big12 will be left out of the power conference alignment.
So what? How many college football games are played on Sunday? I can't recall LA Tech ever playing a football game on Sunday. Not saying it has never happened, but it certainly hasn't happened often. It should be easy for the Big XII to schedule around Sundays.
?? I don't follow your line of thinking. I just pointed out the TV ratings advantage of adding the University of Houston and the Houston TV market. IMO, it would be foolish for the Big XII NOT to add Houston. Also, I have no idea what you are referring to regarding the "steroid" comment, or the "lack of leadership" comment. Where did those comments come from? Leaders come and go anyway, so that doesn't really matter.
So what? It's not a football only conference.
I don't think with the new Football landscape that BYU can stay Independent.
The Pac12 mega conference deal with Big10 and ACC kinda put all those Independents in no mans land scheduling wise.
Maybe ND can, but I can see them eventually having to fold into the ACC.
Independent FBS programs days are numbered.
Football drives the bus on all of these realignment issues, but it's not the only thing that ever matters. The B12 schools are all similar schools -- solid, though not top 50, academic schools who are trying to improve their research footprint. Houston is still mostly a commuter school. There isn't much enthusiasm for adding them.
Even in terms of football -- TCU, Baylor and TTech have no real motivation to add another mouth to feed in terms of recruits in Texas. There are already five power five schools in the state--and two of them are super-powers. Why would they want to have to recruit against Houston as an equal?
Bingo
Houston ain’t being called to the Big12 and the Big12 will be left out of the P4.
If leaders don’t matter, we would have been in the AAC years ago.
They do and we were saddled with no vision and failed to strike when the iron was hot.
Houston fumbled about 5 years ago with the Big12. They blew their chance.
Now, two of the 4 subcommittee for expansion members of the Big 12 are academics. No way Houston as a commuter school gets the kid.
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