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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It was done so quickly because scientists developed an incredible mRNA platform over the past couple of decades that allows for very fast development of targeted vaccines. This technology has not been around very long but is based on very sound science.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...ar-afeyan.html
    ....oh....and Guissy left out the rest. The government ALSO chose to allow Big Pharma to skip all those years of testing that typically uncover side affects and down sides to the use of any drug.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It was done so quickly because scientists developed an incredible mRNA platform over the past couple of decades that allows for very fast development of targeted vaccines. This technology has not been around very long but is based on very sound science.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...ar-afeyan.html
    This doesn't address the bigger picture about how the same drugs are strangely safe elsewhere, just not here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    ....oh....and Guissy left out the rest. The government ALSO chose to allow Big Pharma to skip all those years of testing that typically uncover side affects and down sides to the use of any drug.
    You talking about emergency authorization? You know, where the FDA judges that the benefits of a vaccine/drug (as determined by phase 1 and 2 clinical trials) outweigh the risks in the context of a health emergency and allowed the vaccine to be issued publicly before completing all the phase 3 clinical trials.

    EUA’s may not be “standard approval” but they are a standard tool in the FDA arsenal to address cases just like this.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    This doesn't address the bigger picture about how the same drugs are strangely safe elsewhere, just not here.
    What drugs are you talking about?

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You talking about emergency authorization? You know, where the FDA judges that the benefits of a vaccine/drug (as determined by phase 1 and 2 clinical trials) outweigh the risks in the context of a health emergency and allowed the vaccine to be issued publicly before completing all the phase 3 clinical trials.

    EUA’s may not be “standard approval” but they are a standard tool in the FDA arsenal to address cases just like this.
    Well, at least you finally ADMIT that typical protocols were skipped in the interest of time to market, and as a consequence, there's a lot that we don't know regarding the potential side affects of these "vaccine" drugs. Thank you for the admission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Well, at least you finally ADMIT that typical protocols were skipped in the interest of time to market, and as a consequence, there's a lot that we don't know regarding the potential side affects of these "vaccine" drugs. Thank you for the admission.
    EUA is a typical protocol in this type of situation. FDA knew enough about the risks of not getting vaccinated and had enough data about the consequences of getting vaccinated to make this very easy call.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Well, at least you finally ADMIT that typical protocols were skipped in the interest of time to market, and as a consequence, there's a lot that we don't know regarding the potential side affects of these "vaccine" drugs. Thank you for the admission.
    And the good news is that their judgment proved right because the full approvals are now happening and the data is very robust because of the EUA.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    EUA is a typical protocol in this type of situation. FDA knew enough about the risks of not getting vaccinated and had enough data about the consequences of getting vaccinated to make this very easy call.
    Say again? What about THIS situation is "typical"? Please explain to me the last time the U.S. shut down its' entire economy, including schools, businesses, etc... due to problems with a pandemic?

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    And the good news is that their judgment proved right because the full approvals are now happening and the data is very robust because of the EUA.
    Just don't "shed" on me.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Say again? What about THIS situation is "typical"? Please explain to me the last time the U.S. shut down its' entire economy, including schools, businesses, etc... due to problems with a pandemic?
    In an emergency, such as a pandemic, an EUA would be typical.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    If I have to show my personal medical records to attend a football game, then my days inside that stadium are in the past. And if enough people refuse to show their papers , Tech will make it optional and not
    mandatory. We are late 1930s Germany people..

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Whole lotta snowflakes. 1930’s Germany? You need to find a WW2 vet immediately and apologize for that stupidity.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Some folks have forgotten about the American ideals of civic duty and social responsibility.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Whole lotta snowflakes. 1930’s Germany? You need to find a WW2 vet immediately and apologize for that stupidity.
    WW2 vets are offended by this comment. They fought to eliminate totalitarianism such as showing papers to move about freely in public.

    Dr. Wood just stated on the pregame show that there is no guidance requiring papers to enter the stadium next week.

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    Re: Vax Card or Negative Test for Entry to Joe Aillet

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    WW2 vets are offended by this comment. They fought to eliminate totalitarianism such as showing papers to move about freely in public.
    And go to public school…bunch of snowflakes. They would laugh at what some of y’all call tyranny.

    I don’t care. Y’all stay home. We’ll have a better fan base.
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