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    Re: Covid - 19

    Really interesting thread about the competition between delta and Mu by someone that has been following the genetics and lineages from the beginning.

    https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/143...766212610?s=21

    This guy is a good follow.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    More on ivermectin. Results are coming…

    https://www.wired.com/story/better-d...ly-on-its-way/

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Really interesting thread about the competition between delta and Mu by someone that has been following the genetics and lineages from the beginning.

    https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/143...766212610?s=21

    This guy is a good follow.
    Please note the decline mentioned in LA on Sept 7th which corresponds to my post about ICU beds (about 11%) opening up across the state. That's still about 90% occupied, but keep in mind the week before, late August, it was 100%+ with a waiting list!

    Let us all hope and pray the Delta variant has run its course and has already peaked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    More on ivermectin. Results are coming…

    https://www.wired.com/story/better-d...ly-on-its-way/
    LOL, sponsored by the NIH.

    I’ll take my chances with Ivermectin. I took the Pfizer shot, it’s not really a vaccine they tell us now, so I’m good rolling with Ivermectin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    LOL, sponsored by the NIH.

    I’ll take my chances with Ivermectin. I took the Pfizer shot, it’s not really a vaccine they tell us now, so I’m good rolling with Ivermectin.
    My son sent me a video this morning about Ivermectin. According to him the content was fairly neutral. Before I could watch it YouTube had removed it. What is the government and the medical community afraid of? Censorship is not going to make everyone trust the government more, unless you're Goober.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    LOL, sponsored by the NIH.

    I’ll take my chances with Ivermectin. I took the Pfizer shot, it’s not really a vaccine they tell us now, so I’m good rolling with Ivermectin.
    The "vaccines" are just less effective therapeutics than the cheap, tested therapeutics that they are trying to block.

    Before Goosey tries to dispute it, the definition of a vaccine is something that provides immunity. Not something that actually increases the likely of catching a disease (variants) as the most recent studies indicate, but that does appear to reduce the severity of the disease after you catch it (definition of a therapeutic).

    Exactly why even the WHO is stating that boosters are not needed at this time.
    Last edited by FriscoDawg; 09-09-2021 at 10:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    The "vaccines" are just less effective therapeutics than the cheap, tested therapeutics that they are trying to block.

    Before Goosey tries to dispute it, the definition of a vaccine is something that provides immunity. Not something that actually increases the likely of catching a disease (variants) as the most recent studies indicate, but that does appear to reduce the severity of the disease after you catch it (therapeutics).

    Exactly why even the WHO is stating that boosters are not needed at this time.
    You are an idiot and don’t understand this subject matter at all. These are vaccines under any definition. You just give away your ignorance by arguing otherwise.

    No definition of vaccine requires the immunity to be perpetual. That goes to the the issue of a vaccines “durability.”

    No definition of vaccine requires immunity to variants. That is an issue of the scope of the immunity a vaccine provides.

    No definition of vaccine requires you to be entirely symptom free. That goes to a vaccines “efficacy.” Reducing severe disease and death are important aspects of the efficacy.

    Here is the definition from Merriam-Webster:

    Definition of vaccine
    1 : a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as…

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    Vaccination (noun) Treatment with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease; inoculation

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Vaccination (noun) Treatment with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease; inoculation
    Immune: 1 : having a high degree of resistance to an illness or disease. 2 : of, relating to, or involving the body's immune system an immune response. 3 : not influenced or affected by something She is immune to criticism. 4 : not subject to something : exempt They are immune from punishment.

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    I asked a doctor about why people argue that the COVID shots are not vaccines. His said, “Because they don’t know what they’re talking about.”

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    Immunity ( noun) The ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin By the action of specific antibodies or sensitized White blood cells

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Immunity ( noun) The ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin By the action of specific antibodies or sensitized White blood cells
    Resist, not prevent

    Particular infection, not all variants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Resist, not prevent

    Particular infection, not all variants
    And that definition doesn’t specify how long the immunity must last.
    Last edited by Guisslapp; 09-09-2021 at 08:50 PM.

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    “Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.”

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    “Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.”
    Exactly. You have finally figured out the evil of abortion.

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