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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Give the man a pat on the back, pay him and turn the page. I don’t want anything lingering to distract from the future. On the surface this is a fresh start so let’s truly make it that.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by BhadDawg View Post
    He didn't live up to them from the beginning, remember the kind of offense he was supposed to run?

    I just think any possible hires will think that is rather petty of us to try and not pay the money. I do hope that we learned from those mistakes and tailor future contracts to be more of a two way street though. It is another bought lesson, learn from it and move on.
    I think a prospective HC will be more concerned why we low ball COA/stipend money for athletes.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    The fact that you are arguing Holtz buyout tells me how Busch league Tech fans are…and we wonder why we don’t have more success.
    I’ll take bush league over stupid, which is what pissing off money is.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Because we expect our coaches to do their jobs? That’s bush league? It actually reflects on our ADs and Presidents making the bad hires. Fans expect and deserve wins.
    Well one could argue Holtz has been one of the most successful coaches at Tech. I think it’s time for him to go…but Tech needs to honor the contracts they have signed.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    The fact that you are arguing Holtz buyout tells me how Busch league Tech fans are…and we wonder why we don’t have more success.
    So by your logic, I assume you think firing a coach with a winning record and 7 bowl appearances is bush league.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    So by your logic, I assume you think firing a coach with a winning record and 7 bowl appearances is bush league.
    No firing a coach with a winning record and 7 bowl appearances without paying the buyout as some posters suggest is Busch league.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Well one could argue Holtz has been one of the most successful coaches at Tech. I think it’s time for him to go…but Tech needs to honor the contracts they have signed.
    Success is relevant to expectations. You could say he over achieved based on what we were accustomed to but the bar was MUCH lower under Holtz than it was under his predecessors. Therefore he underachieved based on the weak ass competition he faced. He was weak and cost our program dearly.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Success is relevant to expectations. You could say he over achieved based on what we were accustomed to but the bar was MUCH lower under Holtz than it was under his predecessors. Therefore he underachieved based on the weak ass competition he faced. He was weak and cost our program dearly.
    Tech needs to move forward… I agree. Holtz provided some stability and was what many fans were asking for when he was hired. A coach that could win and was willing to stay around. Holtz can’t be blamed for the weak ass conference affiliation. I agree we should have won the weak ass conference r championship at least once during his tenure.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    No firing a coach with a winning record and 7 bowl appearances without paying the buyout as some posters suggest is Busch league.
    Is it bush league to pay out money you’re not contractually required to pay?

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Is it bush league to pay out money you’re not contractually required to pay?
    What does the contract say? I’ve heard rumors of bonuses for 8+ wins.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    It's not like Holtz won a National Championship and then got fired partway through the season less than two years later. That kind of stuff doesn't happen does it?

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg Fan View Post
    It's not like Holtz won a National Championship and then got fired partway through the season less than two years later. That kind of stuff doesn't happen does it?
    It does, LSU is paying out way more than 3 million in buyout . O went 15-0 with a national championship and is being let go two years later.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Tech needs to move forward… I agree. Holtz provided some stability and was what many fans were asking for when he was hired. A coach that could win and was willing to stay around. Holtz can’t be blamed for the weak ass conference affiliation. I agree we should have won the weak ass conference r championship at least once during his tenure.
    no other offers is not the same as willing to stay around. We had an overpaid underachiever as a HC

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    What does the contract say? I’ve heard rumors of bonuses for 8+ wins.
    The contract includes financial incentives for various things, but winning 8+ games was not one of them. However, perhaps even worse (or better) depending on how you look at it, the contract would be automatically extended by one year for any season the team won at least 8 games (including postseason games). Go 7 - 5, then win a bowl game - contract would be extended by a year.

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    Re: LA Tech, Holtz Announce Coaching Change Following Rice Game - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    What does the contract say? I’ve heard rumors of bonuses for 8+ wins.
    The contract called for an automatic extension of one year for every year with at least 8 wins. There was no specified bonus amount for 8+ wins.

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